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Freeze branding

Postby Tbrake » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:06 pm

Using liquid nitrogen what has everyone found to be the ideal timing? I’m having a hard time finding any denatured alcohol this year, vet told me regular rubbing alcohol would work just as good. Is this true? Also I’m in the market for a new set of clippers. Cordless would be awesome, but not a have to be. Any recommendations?
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Re: Freeze branding

Postby BRYANT » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:17 pm

I have never freeze branded cattle, but I have freeze branded several hunting dogs. timing on them depends on the thickness of skin, color. age, and make of brand. Just like with a fire brand closed in numbers and letters will blob if not did right.
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Re: Freeze branding

Postby Tbrake » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:44 pm

Brass irons. Starting on yearling heifers and bulls. Also going to do some 4-6 year old cows that are going on pasture 30-40 miles from home
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Re: Freeze branding

Postby Ebenezer » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:54 pm

Check for denatured alcohol in a paint store. Some use gasoline. I would not care for that. If you are doing many make a box that closes a lid fairly tightly over the top of the handles to decrease moisture contamination. Brush with a stiff brush before you clip the spot and you will save on blades. Easy for me is a cheap battery wall clock with a second hand, put in batteries, hang across the chute and see it right there without another hand. Wait for 12, apply the brand, remove when you reach the 10 or whatever time you use. The less you have to think about extras the easier (for me).
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Re: Freeze branding

Postby Tbrake » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:50 pm

Ebenezer wrote:Check for denatured alcohol in a paint store. Some use gasoline. I would not care for that. If you are doing many make a box that closes a lid fairly tightly over the top of the handles to decrease moisture contamination. Brush with a stiff brush before you clip the spot and you will save on blades. Easy for me is a cheap battery wall clock with a second hand, put in batteries, hang across the chute and see it right there without another hand. Wait for 12, apply the brand, remove when you reach the 10 or whatever time you use. The less you have to think about extras the easier (for me).

Thank you, that helped much. Do you use liquid nitrogen? From what I’ve read seems a lot of people prefer dry ice, but I have a guy who fills semen tanks just down the road. Getting the LN is very simple and cheap. Any recommendations on some new clippers?
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Re: Freeze branding

Postby wbvs58 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:25 pm

I used both dry ice and liquid N on different groups last year and the dry ice results were much more consistent, maybe I held the liq N on for longer than needed and got burning???

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Re: Freeze branding

Postby Boot Jack Bulls » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:31 pm

Look into a new Andis 5 speed clipper with a number 10 or 7 head. We have a Heiniger Saphir cordless that is awesome too. It is quite a bit more expensive than the Andis, but is super nice to hold, balances well, and battery life is great. I won't buy another corded fitting clipper ever again after using the Saphir. Either way, these will generally clip tight enough for freeze branding. You can also use Windex to set a brand instead of alcohol. Works in a pinch. Whichever you use, plan to have a good spray bottle to apply. I generally leave the iron on until the area thumps like cardboard on your knuckle and the brand's outline is easy to see. Length of time depends on each animal. My older bulls would take much longer to set than a calf for instance. On horses, it only takes 7 to 10 seconds.
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Re: Freeze branding

Postby ddd75 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:59 pm

Ebenezer wrote:Check for denatured alcohol in a paint store. Some use gasoline. I would not care for that. If you are doing many make a box that closes a lid fairly tightly over the top of the handles to decrease moisture contamination. Brush with a stiff brush before you clip the spot and you will save on blades. Easy for me is a cheap battery wall clock with a second hand, put in batteries, hang across the chute and see it right there without another hand. Wait for 12, apply the brand, remove when you reach the 10 or whatever time you use. The less you have to think about extras the easier (for me).

thats some good info on the wall clock.


so you only hold it on the cow for 10 seconds?
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Re: Freeze branding

Postby Tbrake » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:23 pm

https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.htm ... gJ2qPD_BwE

Would this one work? Price isn’t too bad.
For the people who use dry ice, where do you get it? What does it cost? How long will it keep in a strafoam cooler? Could I put it in a yeti cooler? I have one of those that has never been used in 3 years.
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Re: Freeze branding

Postby Ebenezer » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:47 pm

I used 50 seconds on a brand. And I use dry ice.
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Re: Freeze branding

Postby Boot Jack Bulls » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:05 pm

Tbrake wrote:https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=9604df70-65d0-485b-a6e9-96391a85678e&sfb=1&itemguid=e26b71aa-1f6f-495b-bcf0-bd86e78d3ad2&utm_content=43415&ccd=IFM003&CAWELAID=120295250000092869&CATARGETID=120295250000477063&cadevice=m&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIov339bT-2AIVg0peCh3IggPvEAQYASABEgJ2qPD_BwE

Would this one work? Price isn’t too bad.
For the people who use dry ice, where do you get it? What does it cost? How long will it keep in a strafoam cooler? Could I put it in a yeti cooler? I have one of those that has never been used in 3 years.


That should work. Anyone who uses a clipper every day (or nearly, think steer jocks!) will almost always recommend Andis.
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Re: Freeze branding

Postby Fire Sweep Ranch » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:07 pm

Tbrake wrote:https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=9604df70-65d0-485b-a6e9-96391a85678e&sfb=1&itemguid=e26b71aa-1f6f-495b-bcf0-bd86e78d3ad2&utm_content=43415&ccd=IFM003&CAWELAID=120295250000092869&CATARGETID=120295250000477063&cadevice=m&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIov339bT-2AIVg0peCh3IggPvEAQYASABEgJ2qPD_BwE

Would this one work? Price isn’t too bad.
For the people who use dry ice, where do you get it? What does it cost? How long will it keep in a strafoam cooler? Could I put it in a yeti cooler? I have one of those that has never been used in 3 years.


We have a set of those and love them. Make sure you can get surgical blades for them.... we only use them to fit cattle.
Can you get 99% alcohol? That is what we use, with the dry ice. 1 minute on the hide...
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Re: Freeze branding

Postby bse » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:55 pm

I use methanol and dry ice, 55 seconds. Get the methanol at the tire store, get dry ice at Kroger cost $1 per pound, use Styrofoam cooler just medium size, learned quick you don't need a big one, takes to much dry ice. I usually get 30lbs do 25 or so, always throw half away, but I never want to come up short. Have 2 coolers, 1 for mixed and another to keep the dry ice in, you will need to add along the way.
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Re: Freeze branding

Postby Tbrake » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:04 am

Great info here. Had help tramendously. Can you keep the dry ice mixed up in a cooler for a few days? Or does it need to be used the same day?
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Re: Freeze branding

Postby Tbrake » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:08 am

Fire Sweep Ranch wrote:
Tbrake wrote:https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=9604df70-65d0-485b-a6e9-96391a85678e&sfb=1&itemguid=e26b71aa-1f6f-495b-bcf0-bd86e78d3ad2&utm_content=43415&ccd=IFM003&CAWELAID=120295250000092869&CATARGETID=120295250000477063&cadevice=m&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIov339bT-2AIVg0peCh3IggPvEAQYASABEgJ2qPD_BwE

Would this one work? Price isn’t too bad.
For the people who use dry ice, where do you get it? What does it cost? How long will it keep in a strafoam cooler? Could I put it in a yeti cooler? I have one of those that has never been used in 3 years.


We have a set of those and love them. Make sure you can get surgical blades for them.... we only use them to fit cattle.
Can you get 99% alcohol? That is what we use, with the dry ice. 1 minute on the hide...

Is says comes with free ultra edge blade set, is that what I’m needing?
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