M-5 wrote:Bright Raven wrote:Dempster wrote:Cydectin will affect dung beetles, just like the other avermectins, because they are, once again, passed in the manure. Cydectin is, however, less detrimental than other avermectins. I don't actually have a study at the ready to produce for every piece of knowledge I have, but if you pick up a bottle and read the label, I believe many of them have a dung beetle statement. Long Range's is something like "This product is excreted in the feces, similar to other avermectins. Product may affect pasture microorganisms" or something like that, I haven't read one in a while and don't have one in front of me.
Thank you - a true Gentleperson and a Scholar.
From ERINEX a registered trademark of Merial, Inc. 1050-2355-07, Rev. 03-2015.
Studies indicate that when eprinomectin comes in contact with soil, it readily and tightly binds to the soil and becomes inactive over time. Free ivermectin/eprinomectin may adversely affect fish and certain aquatic organisms. Do not permit cattle to enter lakes, streams or ponds for at least 6 hours after treatment. Do not contaminate water by direct application or by the improper disposal of drug containers. Dispose of containers in an approved landfill or by incineration.
As with other avermectins, eprinomectin is excreted in the dung of treated animals and can inhibit the reproduction and growth of pest and beneficial insects that use dung as a source of food and for reproduction. The magnitude and duration of such effects are species and life-cycle specific. When used according to label directions, the product is not expected to have an adverse impact on populations of dung-dependent insects.
So Dempster validated what I said , but yet he is a gentleman and and a scholar . You just can't stand it if a person actually has some knowledge and learning from. Somewhere else besides the university.
I disagree with that Darryl. I said I was skeptical. No where did I discredit you. I have numerous acquaintances who have virtually no formal education who demonstrate vast knowledge of a wide range of disciplines.
Edited to add: I remain skeptical that avermectins have any significant affect on invertebrate populations outside the body of the cow. Read that last statement on the Merial publication.