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Re: Don't dismiss those Pour On Parasiticides

Postby wbvs58 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:33 pm

Yes Ron, that is what I keep the Dectomax pouron for, anything that leaves the place to go to another herd I worm as the question is invariably asked when was she wormed last and when you can give the recent date it gives them confidence that things are well managed, along with vaccinations that are relevant to your area. So in essence I worm for "window dressing".

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Re: Don't dismiss those Pour On Parasiticides

Postby kenny thomas » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:32 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
kenny thomas wrote:Ok, now compare the good stuff, Cydectin


Cydectin Pour On is $304.99 for 5000 mL. It treats at the rate of 1 mL per 22 lbs.

That is 110,000 lbs of live weight treated for $304.99.

Not much difference but the most expensive.

There is no difference between cost whether you pour or inject.

Bought a 5 liter jug of Cydectin today for $285.00. After all this discussion I guess I will try it again.
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Re: Don't dismiss those Pour On Parasiticides

Postby Bright Raven » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:47 am

kenny thomas wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
kenny thomas wrote:Ok, now compare the good stuff, Cydectin


Cydectin Pour On is $304.99 for 5000 mL. It treats at the rate of 1 mL per 22 lbs.

That is 110,000 lbs of live weight treated for $304.99.

Not much difference but the most expensive.

There is no difference between cost whether you pour or inject.

Bought a 5 liter jug of Cydectin today for $285.00. After all this discussion I guess I will try it again.


Kenny.

That is a great price.
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Re: Don't dismiss those Pour On Parasiticides

Postby jehosofat » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:13 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
kenny thomas wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
Cydectin Pour On is $304.99 for 5000 mL. It treats at the rate of 1 mL per 22 lbs.

That is 110,000 lbs of live weight treated for $304.99.

Not much difference but the most expensive.

There is no difference between cost whether you pour or inject.

Bought a 5 liter jug of Cydectin today for $285.00. After all this discussion I guess I will try it again.


Kenny.

That is a great price.


You never heard of a jewish moonshiner. :lol:
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Re: Don't dismiss those Pour On Parasiticides

Postby Bright Raven » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:15 pm

jehosofat wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
kenny thomas wrote:Bought a 5 liter jug of Cydectin today for $285.00. After all this discussion I guess I will try it again.


Kenny.

That is a great price.


You never heard of a jewish moonshiner. :lol:


He sure ain't Jewish but those Appalachian hillbillies can be tight as a banjo string!!!
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Postby kenny thomas » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:39 pm

I make the Jewish seem like big spenders.
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Postby True Grit Farms » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:24 pm

kenny thomas wrote:I make the Jewish seem like big spenders.


That's the Tennessee coming out in you.
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Postby TennesseeTuxedo » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:54 am

True Grit Farms wrote:
kenny thomas wrote:I make the Jewish seem like big spenders.


That's the Tennessee coming out in you.


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Postby iwannaknow53 » Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:50 pm

Caustic Bruno....you are correct. I have worked in a generic manufacturing facility in my past life. Let me assure you if the label says the product contains x% of an active ingredient, it does. Quality control is NOT different! The FDA is as stringent on the generic manufacturers as the branded manufacturers. GMP's (good manufacturing practices) are the same for all making the product, regardless of the brand name. QC and QA have to pass the FDA inspectors using the aformentioned GMP's, and once that practice is adopted, it has to be maintained or the products will be recalled. Now, the active carriers can be different, oils vs alcohol, and/or the inactive ingredients can be different, hence the price point difference, but the active ingredient HAS TO BE THE SAME as the branded manufacturer or it is called an ADULTERATED PRODUCT and will be recalled for public safety. In fact, if there is a misspelled word on the label, the FDA will require that the product be recalled due to it becoming an ADULTERATED product. Like I said, the carriers or bonding agents may or can be different, but the ACTIVE ingredient must the same as the branded product or it by its very nature becomes a new drug and it cannot be sold as a generic of X.
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Re: Don't dismiss those Pour On Parasiticides

Postby TexasBred » Sat Nov 03, 2018 6:05 pm

kenny thomas wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
kenny thomas wrote:Ok, now compare the good stuff, Cydectin


Cydectin Pour On is $304.99 for 5000 mL. It treats at the rate of 1 mL per 22 lbs.

That is 110,000 lbs of live weight treated for $304.99.

Not much difference but the most expensive.

There is no difference between cost whether you pour or inject.

Bought a 5 liter jug of Cydectin today for $285.00. After all this discussion I guess I will try it again.

Kenny I use it as well and can see good results. I know some totally reject pour-on's but I have no complaints over the years.
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Postby elkwc » Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:14 pm

I personally will continue to follow the advice of my 3 vets. They all agree pour on once and inject once per year.
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Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:34 am

Cydectin claim to fame when it first came out, was that it was the ONLY de-wormer that did not kill dung beetles. After several years of heavy advertising, they had to STOP saying it because it was NOT true.
This year, I decided to NOT deworm my cows over 3 yrs of age this summer. Timing is everything. I pour-on deworm with generic Ivomec. I deworm the cows in July. They have been grazing since 1st of May (roughly), so 60 days later, they are ready to start shedding eggs. I pour-on again in October (for worming and for lice & grubs).
Calves get Valbazen and Pour On at 3 months of age and again at weaning time. I rotational graze. Never on same ground for more than 5 days.
Here's a good report:
http://grazingguide.net/research/nepc20 ... etles.html
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Postby 76 Bar » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:25 pm

Thanks for the article Jeanne. Enlightening.
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Re: Don't dismiss those Pour On Parasiticides

Postby TexasBred » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:37 pm

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:Cydectin claim to fame when it first came out, was that it was the ONLY de-wormer that did not kill dung beetles. After several years of heavy advertising, they had to STOP saying it because it was NOT true.
This year, I decided to NOT deworm my cows over 3 yrs of age this summer. Timing is everything. I pour-on deworm with generic Ivomec. I deworm the cows in July. They have been grazing since 1st of May (roughly), so 60 days later, they are ready to start shedding eggs. I pour-on again in October (for worming and for lice & grubs).
Calves get Valbazen and Pour On at 3 months of age and again at weaning time. I rotational graze. Never on same ground for more than 5 days.
Here's a good report:
http://grazingguide.net/research/nepc20 ... etles.html

Timing is everything Thank you. :tiphat:
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