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Postby sassafras manor » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:36 am

We have a 7 year old Angus that isn't eating much, has lost some condition the past two days and is restless (will sit down then back up 10 minutes later) so we penned her up in the barn pasture last night. As the boys were walking her to the barn at dusk is was almost as if she couldn't see very well. We found some Johnson grass in the far corner of the pasture she was in and we have had frost the past couple nights but from what I have read she wouldn't have made it thru the night if it was Prussic poisoning. (We also moved all of the other cows out of that pasture once we noticed it and they all have good condition and healthy appetites) She isn's staggering or anything like that just simply walking with no direction. She is drinking (and peeing) and taking mineral but the only manure I could find this morning was 2 clumps about the size of a Danish and they were both pretty hard (not firm, but hard). I am waiting for the vet to open this morning then will call for them to come out but wanted to see what you all thought. Thanks
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Postby Bright Raven » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:43 am

I would like to know the outcome.

I have been monitoring my cows closely. Our fall has been like spring. Very lush green pasture. I have been reading about grass tetany. The symptoms are similar to what you describe.

Please report the results.
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Postby Lucky_P » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:16 am

Grass tetany highly unlikely at this time of year. Would not be a consideration IMO.

I'd be more concerned about anaplasmosis or acorn toxicosis...any oaks in that pasture?
Lymphosarcoma also a consideration
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Postby sassafras manor » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:36 am

They were turned into a hay field Monday evening that has some fresh lush growth of grass, clover and alfalfa and while I always use a high-mag mineral in spring I didn't think about for fall. There also are oak trees along the edge of that field. Vet is coming out at 1130am
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Postby Bright Raven » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:17 pm

sassafras manor wrote:They were turned into a hay field Monday evening that has some fresh lush growth of grass, clover and alfalfa and while I always use a high-mag mineral in spring I didn't think about for fall. There also are oak trees along the edge of that field. Vet is coming out at 1130am


Grass tetany is associated with turning cows out on spring grass when they have been on hay but this fall in Kentucky has been like spring. In fact, I have the most lush pasture that I can remember. I do keep vitaferm out year around.
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Postby sassafras manor » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:29 pm

The vet said everything points towards anaplasmosis based on how anemic the cow is and what her blood looked like when she took a blood sample. She gave her a large dose of La 300, a multivitamin shot and 2 L of IV fluids and 5 to 7 days I need to give her another hit of La 300 and she wrote me a script to pick up an aromycin (probably spelled that one wrong) tub to put out for my other cows..
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Postby Bright Raven » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:37 pm

sassafras manor wrote:The vet said everything points towards anaplasmosis based on how anemic the cow is and what her blood looked like when she took a blood sample. She gave her a large dose of La 300, a multivitamin shot and 2 L of IV fluids and 5 to 7 days I need to give her another hit of La 300 and she wrote me a script to pick up an aromycin (probably spelled that one wrong) tub to put out for my other cows..


AUREOMYCIN is a trade name for oxytetracycline. When you get it, would you post the concentration of oxytetracycline in the tub? And is it a mineral tub or feed tub?
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Postby Lucky_P » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:03 pm

Aureomycin is chlortetracycline(CTC), not oxytetracycline.

I'm sure that your veterinarian warned you to be on the lookout for other mature animals exhibiting similar signs...
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Postby sassafras manor » Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:23 pm

Yes the vet instructed me to keep a watchful eye on the rest of the herd. They are all pulled back up close to the barn to easier monitor. Bright Raven....once I pick up the tub I will provide the details about the tub. Thanks
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Postby Bright Raven » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:04 pm

Lucky_P wrote:Aureomycin is chlortetracycline(CTC), not oxytetracycline.

I'm sure that your veterinarian warned you to be on the lookout for other mature animals exhibiting similar signs...


Thanks for correcting that.
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Re: Off cow

Postby holm25 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:44 pm

Lucky_P wrote:Grass tetany highly unlikely at this time of year. Would not be a consideration IMO.

I'd be more concerned about anaplasmosis or acorn toxicosis...any oaks in that pasture?
Lymphosarcoma also a consideration


Cows shouldn’t eat acorns?
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Postby Lucky_P » Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:36 pm

Not to excess... and some will, during 'on' years with a heavy mast crop.
In my experience, the white oak group (white, bur, chestnut, etc. ) tend to be a bigger problem, but if a large crop of red/black oak acorns was present, they could also cause issues.
http://www.thecattlesite.com/diseaseinf ... poisoning/

Deer and goats have proline-rich salivary proteins which inactivate the tannins, which are presumed to be the damaging component in acorns and oak buds, and thus can eat them with impunity... but cattle lack these salivary proteins, and mustn't eat 'all they want'.
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Re: Off cow

Postby TCRanch » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:46 pm

Sorry to hear that! Are you going to have the rest of the herd tested? Not knowing your protocol, and you may already do this, but I would strongly suggest switching to disposable needles/syringes or at the very least changing needles every time.
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Postby sassafras manor » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:09 pm

We always switch syringe tips at vaccination time. At this point the vet did not seem to think we needed to test the rest of the herd but will be putting out a Aereomycin tub for them as a preventative.
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