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Baby Calves and Buzzards

Postby Bright Raven » Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:31 am

The buzzards were worse yesterday than I have seen in four years. The cows and calves were out on the ridge top enjoying some rare sunshine. The buzzards harrassed them all day. I spent half the day on guard duty.

The cows are clearly aware of the threat. I saw cows running at the buzzards several times.

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Re: Baby Calves and Buzzards

Postby Ebenezer » Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:46 am

An article in a farm mag this year said that an effigy of a buzzard cut from a rubber mat and hung in eye view will repel them as far as they can see what they think is one of their own hanging upside down. I have not tried it but folks around here have hung the real thing up years ago and cut down on the problem. Politically correctness has struck again!
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Re: Baby Calves and Buzzards

Postby callmefence » Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:57 am

Baloney....
A dead buzzard will only attract other buzzards. They will eat the he// outta their own.
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Re: Baby Calves and Buzzards

Postby True Grit Farms » Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:04 am

callmefence wrote:Baloney....
A dead buzzard will only attract other buzzards. They will eat the he// outta their own.

Must be a Fenceman's place observation, mine differs. Harassing buzzards where they roost will also run them off.
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Re: Baby Calves and Buzzards

Postby callmefence » Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:23 am

True Grit Farms wrote:
callmefence wrote:Baloney....
A dead buzzard will only attract other buzzards. They will eat the he// outta their own.

Must be a Fenceman's place observation, mine differs. Harassing buzzards where they roost will also run them off.


If dead buzzards hanging around don't attract other buzzards, I would make sure their in the woods deep enough to not attract game wardens..... ;-)
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Re: Baby Calves and Buzzards

Postby Bright Raven » Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:23 am

There is a seedstock Angus Breeder about 5 miles from here. They have a pay lake near their farm. The dead fish people leave around the lake has led to a serious buzzard problem. They kept calling the game warden.

Finally, he told them do whatever they have to, to protect their stock. I don't think there is a game warden in the state of Kentucky who is going to do anything to prosecute producers protecting their cattle.

The buzzards are getting more aggressive. The Black Vultures behavior is more like a bird of prey than a scavenger.
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Re: Baby Calves and Buzzards

Postby True Grit Farms » Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:27 am

callmefence wrote:
True Grit Farms wrote:
callmefence wrote:Baloney....
A dead buzzard will only attract other buzzards. They will eat the he// outta their own.

Must be a Fenceman's place observation, mine differs. Harassing buzzards where they roost will also run them off.


If dead buzzards hanging around don't attract other buzzards, I would make sure their in the woods deep enough to not attract game wardens..... ;-)

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Re: Baby Calves and Buzzards

Postby Bright Raven » Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:41 am

callmefence wrote:Baloney....
A dead buzzard will only attract other buzzards. They will eat the he// outta their own.


I ask the guy who has the Angus farm if he tried hanging up the dead ones. He said they were landing on top of the fence posts where he hung the birds. It don't work here!!!
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Re: Baby Calves and Buzzards

Postby bird dog » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:02 am

Harassment is your best bet if they are hanging around waiting (nothing already dead). You really don't even have to kill them, just shoot. I rarely can get close enough for a shotgun even with buck shot but the noise and I guess the pellets flying close to them is enough for them to usually look elsewhere. As true grit said , if you can find where they are roosting in the evening, sneak down there at dusk and unload on them.
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Re: Baby Calves and Buzzards

Postby OleScout » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:35 am

Recently a guy a couple of counties East was fined $10,000 for shooting a hawk that was wearing out his quail preserve. After that I called the state Wildlife folks about a permit to take black vultures, I lost three calves to them last year and would have been more if I hadn't been home to keep the off of some others.
State guy said call Fed guy, after talking to 2 Feds finally got the 3rd one with info. Yes I can shoot them after I have exhausted all other ways to run them off BUT I must complete an application, attach a report that Fed guy emailed to me that documents my losses and attempts to discourage them. Send those documents with a check for $100 to a field office in Atlanta where he assured me my permit would be expedited. Then there are numerous reports that must be completed and filed whether you shoot one or not. I do not need nor want to put myself on their radar.
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Re: Baby Calves and Buzzards

Postby NonTypicalCPA » Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:24 am

It’s wrong to not be able to protect your livestock. I’m south enough in Michigan that I don’t have much that threatens calves, but the UP has wolves to deal with.
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Re: Baby Calves and Buzzards

Postby Bright Raven » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:33 pm

There are no dead calves. I dispose of all my placentas. In fact, I think I got everyone but one this year.

I have to wonder if they just hang out because it is common for producers to lose calves thus rewarding them with a prize - as in, the early bird catches the worm.

I do notice this and it is the first time I have discovered this - they are eating the calf feces!
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Re: Baby Calves and Buzzards

Postby OleScout » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:13 pm

These calves were born alive and well, the buzzards pecked their eyes out and killed them!!!
I saw one of them up nursing. When I came back the ole cow was fighting the buzzards and the calf was fresh killed.
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Re: Baby Calves and Buzzards

Postby JMJ Farms » Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:29 pm

OleScout wrote:These calves were born alive and well, the buzzards pecked their eyes out and killed them!!!
I saw one of them up nursing. When I came back the ole cow was fighting the buzzards and the calf was fresh killed.


I’ve seen this numerous times. Hasn’t been as bad the last couple of years.

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Re: Baby Calves and Buzzards

Postby Lucky_P » Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:33 pm

Plenty of buzzards here - both turkey and Mexican. I watch closely, but have not had an issue(yet) with them attacking calves or cows calving. We do remove placenta if we find it or the cow doesn't eat it pdq.
But... some days, early on during the calving season, they mob up and spend the bulk of the day sailing in and out, walking around the pasture eating calf poop. The cows mostly just ignore them.
But... let a cattle egret sail in and alight... they'll chase that sucker right out of the pasture. Several years back, they caught a great blue heron that was, I guess, fishing one of the stock tanks, and was too slow getting up in the air... and trampled him to death.
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