Bovine Intelligence

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Bovine Intelligence

Post by Bright Raven » Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:58 am

This first calf heifer suffers from allergies. She frequently blows a discharge from her nostrils. She is much worse in late summer and improves in winter.

I have observed her pushing cutoff weed stems up into her nostrils. I have pulled weed stems out of her nostril.

Clearly, she is seeking relief. Yesterday, I finally got a picture. There is a metal electric fence post that was pushed into a waste pile of debris from my dozer work about 8 years ago. She was pushing the end of that metal post up into her nostril.

There is a level of intelligence involved when a bovine uses a "tool". Basically, a tool is any object used to accomplish a physical objective. Behavioral scientist have identified several species that use tools:
Otters
Birds
Primates including humans
Canines
Felines
Etc

This certainly qualifies:
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Re: Bovine Intelligence

Post by kenny thomas » Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:22 am

Get rid of the fescue and she will stop. Or just sell her in late winter when it stops.
I have gotten 2 up in the last few years and pulled sticks out of the nostril
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Re: Bovine Intelligence

Post by ez14. » Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:35 am

I think she's trying to itch her brain

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Re: Bovine Intelligence

Post by Son of Butch » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:23 am

I don't think bovine are all that smart (unless comparing to Kentucky IQ) however I would say Black Angus are the
smartest based on ability to find the weak spot in a fence... but that would be racist.

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Re: Bovine Intelligence

Post by Stocker Steve » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:24 am

A good herdsman would wrap some cotton quilting, or at least a clean rag, around that rod. ;-)
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Re: Bovine Intelligence

Post by Bright Raven » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:47 am

I often wonder how non-primates such as a dog, bovine, whale, and especially elephants process inputs. Anthropomorphism is the practice of giving non-human emotions and behavior to other animals. I have not seen anyone with a pet who is not guilty. I know what scientists say about what goes on in the brain of other animals.

If you have a dog, it is impossible to believe they don't Express emotions - happy when they see you, timid when you scold them, jealous, protective, etc.

I think most mammals process more information than science gives them credit for.
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Re: Bovine Intelligence

Post by Nesikep » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:49 am

Son of Butch wrote:I don't think bovine are all that smart (unless comparing to Kentucky IQ) however I would say Black Angus are the
smartest based on ability to find the weak spot in a fence... but that would be racist.

The red angus I had made the hole in the fence!
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Re: Bovine Intelligence

Post by Nesikep » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:51 am

Bright Raven wrote:I often wonder how non-primates such as a dog, bovine, whale, and especially elephants process inputs. Anthropomorphism is the practice of giving non-human emotions and behavior to other animals. I have not seen anyone with a pet who is not guilty. I know what scientists say about what goes on in the brain of other animals.

If you have a dog, it is impossible to believe they don't Express emotions - happy when they see you, timid when you scold them, jealous, protective, etc.

I think most mammals process more information than science gives them credit for.

Cows are smart when it comes to their own benefit.. opening gates, finding a way to scratch that itch, etc

Here's one of mine.. Hector's mother was a little smarter than the rest
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Re: Bovine Intelligence

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:40 pm

WOW - I can't believe she was able to drink that much and that fast!!! Smart cows.
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Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:41 pm

Oh - and I have seen cows "itching" the inside of their nose with "tools". They also like to itch their butts!
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Re: Bovine Intelligence

Post by Redgully » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:58 pm

Nesikep wrote:
Son of Butch wrote:I don't think bovine are all that smart (unless comparing to Kentucky IQ) however I would say Black Angus are the
smartest based on ability to find the weak spot in a fence... but that would be racist.

The red angus I had made the hole in the fence!


Murray grey don't bother with any of that, they just open the gate!

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Re: Bovine Intelligence

Post by Nesikep » Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:16 pm

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:Oh - and I have seen cows "itching" the inside of their nose with "tools". They also like to itch their butts!

I have a couple that know just how to get me to itch their butt.. one day two of them came up to me and their butts touched, and they started rubbing against each other.. I left them!
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Re: Bovine Intelligence

Post by TCRanch » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:56 pm

Nesikep wrote:
Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:Oh - and I have seen cows "itching" the inside of their nose with "tools". They also like to itch their butts!

I have a couple that know just how to get me to itch their butt.. one day two of them came up to me and their butts touched, and they started rubbing against each other.. I left them!


Scratching a cow's butt & tail is how I take their temp in the pasture. The tail automatically goes up & to the side, I've got a direct shot with the thermometer, continue scratching until I hear the beep, one-n-done. Couple cubes on the ground also helps. ;-)

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Re: Bovine Intelligence

Post by wbvs58 » Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:38 pm

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:Oh - and I have seen cows "itching" the inside of their nose with "tools". They also like to itch their butts!


With the same tool Jeanne???????

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Re: Bovine Intelligence

Post by callmefence » Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:14 pm

Bright Raven wrote:This first calf heifer suffers from allergies. She frequently blows a discharge from her nostrils. She is much worse in late summer and improves in winter.

I have observed her pushing cutoff weed stems up into her nostrils. I have pulled weed stems out of her nostril.

Clearly, she is seeking relief. Yesterday, I finally got a picture. There is a metal electric fence post that was pushed into a waste pile of debris from my dozer work about 8 years ago. She was pushing the end of that metal post up into her nostril.

There is a level of intelligence involved when a bovine uses a "tool". Basically, a tool is any object used to accomplish a physical objective. Behavioral scientist have identified several species that use tools:
Otters
Birds
Primates including humans
Canines
Felines
Etc

This certainly qualifies:
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Maybe it's not allergies..... maybe she's just to stupid to quit sticking crap in her nose....I'm just saying
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