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Re: bottle calves for newbies

Post by rony albert » Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:32 am

I have heard that it is not hygienic for newborn calves. Is that right?



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Re: bottle calves for newbies

Post by iBLeslie » Mon May 08, 2017 7:29 pm

Great post...but what if u have a 6 week old beef calf that wont drink milk period but eats hay some manna and grain and drinks water well and is healthy? lack of milk at this age will cause what kind of problems? My kids are very attached so he will probably be just a pasture ornament so stunting isnt that big a deal. I do tho worry about nutrition. Do I give loose minerals at this age???

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Re: bottle calves for newbies

Post by Workinonit Farm » Mon May 08, 2017 7:57 pm

iBLeslie wrote:Great post...but what if u have a 6 week old beef calf that wont drink milk period but eats hay some manna and grain and drinks water well and is healthy? lack of milk at this age will cause what kind of problems? My kids are very attached so he will probably be just a pasture ornament so stunting isnt that big a deal. I do tho worry about nutrition. Do I give loose minerals at this age???


You can sprinkle the powdered milk replacer on the feed, or mix it in with the feed. This way, they're still getting "milk".
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Re: bottle calves for newbies

Post by iBLeslie » Tue May 09, 2017 11:33 am

Thanks Workinonit. Good idea

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Post by UStraveler2017 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:45 pm

Thank you really informative for beginners. I'm newbie my father got a farm in Texas. I was planning to visit him this coming November and he wants me to take care of the farm for a while since his going on a vacation with stepmom. So I'll take charge. Thanks!

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Post by Coriellemcgill » Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:10 pm

I have 3 bottle calves right now. One is 2 months old and the other two are 4-5 weeks. Any tips on starting them on grain? They all turn their nose up to it.

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Re: bottle calves for newbies

Post by Dyahes » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:01 am

Most calves seem to have various 'upsets' after being moved and I usually make sure they are kept nice and warm somewhere quiet, stress is the last thing they need.
I don't usually give them anything to drink the first 48 hours apart from warm water with added electrolytes and some molasses to flavour and make it all more palatable, I certainly wouldn't advise any grain within this period but would offer good quality hay [barley straw is fine] if they want it. [helps to develop the rumen]
I would only offer grain after the 48 hour period if all seems well with them and then only in very small quantities, I would start with a mugful, see how they go with that and increase gradually until they can manage a 1lb twice per day [total 2lbs grain per day]. Once they can manage this amount and are eating hay/straw comfortably you can wean them. It is vital that you don't rush them, I keep records of amounts fed and how much they leave so that I don't push them too early, some calfs will do better than others, treat each as an individual and you won't go far wrong.
I would also let them have milk after the 48 hours but in very small amounts initially, you don't want to cause any stomach upsets [milk replacer is fine], I would start with 1/2 pint/litre and build up to 1 litre twice per day [try and serve at body temp], again I always keep records, amount fed/amount finished.
As you are already feeding grain I would cut back until the one with the loose stools calms down and see how he goes. Whilst I applaud the use of antibiotics etc, remember that while they help destroy harmful bacteria they can also destroy beneficial bacteria so should only be used as a last resort.

It helps if you have a thermometer and learn how to take a temperature, usual temps are 100.5 - 103 degrees.
I think that you are doing fine so far Kate, just remember introduce any new feeds in increments and always try and have clean hands/clothes when handling them and keep records.

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Re: bottle calves for newbies

Post by samanthasteven » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:19 am

Some really useful advice right here! Thanks.

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Re: bottle calves for newbies

Post by Trudylamb » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:25 pm

Hey y’all. I have a six day old angus beef bull calf. When we got him he was 2 days old. I was told to feed him 3 times a day. So I started with some powder milk then found some pellets to grind up and add to the milk. He was eating all three times a day until today. Bottle Fed him at 5am then went out there at noon and he refused to take the bottle. He won’t even suck my thumb. Thought it might be milk scours and bought some probiotic yogurt he ate a little of it but then laid down again. Someone please help me.

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Re: bottle calves for newbies

Post by Double R Ranch » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:54 am

Trudylamb wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:25 pm
Hey y’all. I have a six day old angus beef bull calf. When we got him he was 2 days old. I was told to feed him 3 times a day. So I started with some powder milk then found some pellets to grind up and add to the milk. He was eating all three times a day until today. Bottle Fed him at 5am then went out there at noon and he refused to take the bottle. He won’t even suck my thumb. Thought it might be milk scours and bought some probiotic yogurt he ate a little of it but then laid down again. Someone please help me.
The best chance for answers is to start your own thread on this.
Are you feeding milk based replacer or soy based?
How much milk per feeding are you giving him?
What does his stool look like?
Does he have a temperature?
Is he drinking water?
What pellets are you adding to his milk?

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Re: bottle calves for newbies

Post by farmerjan » Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:37 pm

Double R has the same basic questions I would ask.
I would not be adding any pellets to the milk mix. Not at 6 days old. He doesn't need them, and can't digest them. He needs to be able to absorb all his nutrients from the milk for the first couple of weeks. The abomasum digests the milk and for at least 2 weeks milk is the only thing a calf should be fed. Read 4 stomachs of a calf, that you can google. A calf will begin to mimic it's mother as it gets a few weeks, and the size of the stomachs change and the rumen will start to develop so it can digest the more solid food. He could be having a "bloating" type problem because he cannot digest whatever is in the pellets you are grinding up. Did someone tell you to do that? I have never done that in over 40 years of feeding baby calves.
The other questions I agree with. How much are you feeding him? Is it only ALL MILK based milk replacer? What does his manure/stool look like? What made you think of scours?
The probiotic yogurt will help with digestion. You can also buy probiotics in a tube that you give to them, it is a gel. But a "drinkable yogurt" will work as well. But until we have more info, it is hard to begin to tell what the problem might be.

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