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Starting my herd

Postby Bfields30 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:36 am

Finally purchasing a couple older cows next week both 8 yrs old angus and red angus one has a char baby calf on her side and the other is light bred. I’m excited to say the least. I have water troughs and feed troughs and getting couple bales of hay this upcoming week. Few questions on what type of feed do I need to get as well as What type of mineral do I need to put out and how much feed do I need to feed a week or just in general. And let me know if I’m missing anything. Suggestions would help a lot ?
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Re: Starting my herd

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Re: Starting my herd

Postby callmefence » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:44 am

Congratulations
Grass should be coming on. For the most part that should have feed covered. Buy some bags of cake to get to know them and trained to come to you. Check with your feed dealer( NOT TSC) about what mineral is used locally.
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Re: Starting my herd

Postby farmerjan » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:54 am

Congrats and good luck. Smart to start with some older experienced animals. Mineral should be offered free choice. Use a Hi-mag mineral in the spring due to fast lush growth of grass being low in magnesium.
We feed our hay free choice in big round bales. Don't know if that is what you have in mind. Our rule of thumb here in winter is 1 round bale per 20 head per day. Our bales are 5x5 and weigh in the neighborhood of 1000 to 1200 lbs. This is just an average general basic to work off of. If you feed small square bales you are going to have to figure at least 1 per cow per day at a minimum. If there is some grass/green growth, they will eat a little less hay.
As for feed. If they are used to getting feed, then try to find out what they were getting fed before. Easier to start with the same if possible. Beef cattle do not need alot of extra feed. Most of us feed a little to get them to come into a catch pen and to keep them calm and friendlier rather than them running wild with no human interaction. Maybe less than a third of a 5 gallon bucket a couple times a week? We feed about a 5 gallon bucket per 7-10 head twice a week or even only once a week. They learn what a bucket is for. If they are thin you might want to give it a little more often, but they are not dairy cows and do not need to be making tons of milk and they need to be able to go about being beef cows on basically hay and grass. They don't need to be too fat, but the one with the calf doesn't need to be losing weight either. The one that is short bred you don't want to get too fat as that can lead to calving difficulties.

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Re: Starting my herd

Postby Bigfoot » Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:00 am

Congrats on the start. We all started at some point.
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Re: Starting my herd

Postby Bfields30 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:16 am

farmerjan wrote:Congrats and good luck. Smart to start with some older experienced animals. Mineral should be offered free choice. Use a Hi-mag mineral in the spring due to fast lush growth of grass being low in magnesium.
We feed our hay free choice in big round bales. Don't know if that is what you have in mind. Our rule of thumb here in winter is 1 round bale per 20 head per day. Our bales are 5x5 and weigh in the neighborhood of 1000 to 1200 lbs. This is just an average general basic to work off of. If you feed small square bales you are going to have to figure at least 1 per cow per day at a minimum. If there is some grass/green growth, they will eat a little less hay.
As for feed. If they are used to getting feed, then try to find out what they were getting fed before. Easier to start with the same if possible. Beef cattle do not need alot of extra feed. Most of us feed a little to get them to come into a catch pen and to keep them calm and friendlier rather than them running wild with no human interaction. Maybe less than a third of a 5 gallon bucket a couple times a week? We feed about a 5 gallon bucket per 7-10 head twice a week or even only once a week. They learn what a bucket is for. If they are thin you might want to give it a little more often, but they are not dairy cows and do not need to be making tons of milk and they need to be able to go about being beef cows on basically hay and grass. They don't need to be too fat, but the one with the calf doesn't need to be losing weight either. The one that is short bred you don't want to get too fat as that can lead to calving difficulties.

Yeah the one with the calf a little thin and the owner told me he has them on a mixture of corn ..

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Re: Starting my herd

Postby Bfields30 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:16 am

How many square bales = a round bale ??
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Postby K&S Cattle » Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:42 am

Bfields30 wrote:Finally purchasing a couple older cows next week both 8 yrs old angus and red angus one has a char baby calf on her side and the other is light bred. I’m excited to say the least. I have water troughs and feed troughs and getting couple bales of hay this upcoming week. Few questions on what type of feed do I need to get as well as What type of mineral do I need to put out and how much feed do I need to feed a week or just in general. And let me know if I’m missing anything. Suggestions would help a lot ?



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Re: Starting my herd

Postby Craig Miller » Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:09 pm

Bfields30 wrote:How many square bales = a round bale ??


Around 20 or so just according to how much they weigh and the round bale
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Re: Starting my herd

Postby Rafter S » Wed Mar 07, 2018 1:59 pm

Keep loose mineral and loose salt out year-round. If you can find it, get EDDI salt. It has iodine added to help prevent foot rot (and I know from personal experience that it works). As others have said, you don't necessarily need to put out feed as long as there's plenty of grass, but it's a good idea to feed them once or twice a week to keep them gentle and easy to catch.
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Re: Starting my herd

Postby ALACOWMAN » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:04 pm

Congratulations,, Bet you are excited to get started,i was... It ain't rocket surgery. So don't pressure yourself..
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Re: Starting my herd

Postby Bfields30 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:05 pm

Rafter S wrote:Keep loose mineral and loose salt out year-round. If you can find it, get EDDI salt. It has iodine added to help prevent foot rot (and I know from personal experience that it works). As others have said, you don't necessarily need to put out feed as long as there's plenty of grass, but it's a good idea to feed them once or twice a week to keep them gentle and easy to catch.
can I just put the mineral and salt in a small trough separately
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Re: Starting my herd

Postby slick4591 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:23 pm

Congrats! Glad things are coming together for you.
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Re: Starting my herd

Postby Bfields30 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:06 pm

ALACOWMAN wrote:Congratulations,, Bet you are excited to get started,i was... It ain't rocket surgery. So don't pressure yourself..

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Re: Starting my herd

Postby M-5 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:13 pm

Bfields30 wrote:
Rafter S wrote:Keep loose mineral and loose salt out year-round. If you can find it, get EDDI salt. It has iodine added to help prevent foot rot (and I know from personal experience that it works). As others have said, you don't necessarily need to put out feed as long as there's plenty of grass, but it's a good idea to feed them once or twice a week to keep them gentle and easy to catch.
can I just put the mineral and salt in a small trough separately


Yes you can , but I put both in same trough separate
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