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Re: Working pen (small) 10 head

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:37 am
by backhoeboogie
My working pens themselves would handle around 30. My alley would hold 200 although I never had that many. The alley was at the end of a fenced road. Each time I moved cows to a new pasture, they went down that roadway and thru the alley. There were medina hinge gates all in the alley. You could trap and sort anything.

So if you get your working pens right, you can always add a good strong alley later. A "bud box" is simply a new term they use for old school medina gates except it is only a single gate versus a trap set up you get with a medina.

You can google medina hinge and get some good info. In the old days before they had squeeze chutes lots of folks used medinas. They still use that concept for bulls at rodeos.

Re: Working pen (small) 10 head

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:48 pm
by Bfields30
backhoeboogie wrote:My working pens themselves would handle around 30. My alley would hold 200 although I never had that many. The alley was at the end of a fenced road. Each time I moved cows to a new pasture, they went down that roadway and thru the alley. There were medina hinge gates all in the alley. You could trap and sort anything.

So if you get your working pens right, you can always add a good strong alley later. A "bud box" is simply a new term they use for old school medina gates except it is only a single gate versus a trap set up you get with a medina.

You can google medina hinge and get some good info. In the old days before they had squeeze chutes lots of folks used medinas. They still use that concept for bulls at rodeos.
how high would you say it should be gotta couple Braford heifers and Brahman heifers coming in soon reason I’m building it so I can put them in there before I let them loose on my place.

Re: Working pen (small) 10 head

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:01 am
by JMJ Farms
Bfields30 wrote: how high would you say it should be gotta couple Braford heifers and Brahman heifers coming in soon reason I’m building it so I can put them in there before I let them loose on my place.


6 foot.

Re: Working pen (small) 10 head

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:10 am
by backhoeboogie
I agree with JMJ . 6 foot should be good for anything. I had 5 foot utility panels welded on drill stem and two sucker rods 5 inches apart above the panels. That put me at 5 foot 10 inches. I had char/brimmer F1's and lots of brangus. Existing cows weren't an issue but when you bring in new bloodlines, they tend to try the facility. All they really want to do is go home but they don't know where home is. A few days to settle always helps.

Re: Working pen (small) 10 head

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:56 pm
by Bfields30
20x20 working pen would hold how many head
Vs a 30x 30 getting quotes on both this week.

Re: Working pen (small) 10 head

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:04 pm
by Bfields30
One guy told me 20 dollar per foot for labor and pipe and one guy told me told me 2280 for a 2280 labor and pipe

Re: Working pen (small) 10 head

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:46 pm
by kenny thomas
ClinchValley wrote:If there is any chance you'll have more cattle in the future, make it larger. You could always put a large trap before the pen starts. Slowly feed you pen from the larger trap. Keeps the pressure off your panels.

When I built ours last Fall, I asked every person around us for advice. Looked at theirs, asked what they would change if they could do it over. Got a lot of good ideas, some I used, some I wish had've. Ended up getting volunteer help even.

Like building anything, go 30-50 percent larger than you think you need at the present time.

But you still didn't look at the best one around. Lol
That's as good of advice as you can get. Lots of people here have looked at my pens just to get ideas. It might not be perfect for everyone but it's great for me

Re: Working pen (small) 10 head

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:08 am
by Bfields30
kenny thomas wrote:
ClinchValley wrote:If there is any chance you'll have more cattle in the future, make it larger. You could always put a large trap before the pen starts. Slowly feed you pen from the larger trap. Keeps the pressure off your panels.

When I built ours last Fall, I asked every person around us for advice. Looked at theirs, asked what they would change if they could do it over. Got a lot of good ideas, some I used, some I wish had've. Ended up getting volunteer help even.

Like building anything, go 30-50 percent larger than you think you need at the present time.

But you still didn't look at the best one around. Lol
That's as good of advice as you can get. Lots of people here have looked at my pens just to get ideas. It might not be perfect for everyone but it's great for me
yeah I’ve been asking and looking around What’s a good size catch pen and could i use barbed for the catch pen 5 lines of barb wire the main part as well I want a corral pen to wean calves This upcoming yr. I’ll do the catch pen myself and hire someone to do the welded pens.

Re: Working pen (small) 10 head

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:57 am
by OleScout
You don't want to use barb wire anywhere that you will be pushing cattle or where they realize they are being caught. My pen for the group that feeds the sorting alley is Bull panels over net wire, posts on 8' centers.

Re: Working pen (small) 10 head

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:21 am
by 76 Bar

Re: Working pen (small) 10 head

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:52 pm
by Bfields30
OleScout wrote:You don't want to use barb wire anywhere that you will be pushing cattle or where they realize they are being caught. My pen for the group that feeds the sorting alley is Bull panels over net wire, posts on 8' centers.
Electric would that work or heavy duty panels

Re: Working pen (small) 10 head

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:22 pm
by Jeanne - Simme Valley
panels

Re: Working pen (small) 10 head

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:40 pm
by OleScout
Panels with wood posts.

Re: Working pen (small) 10 head

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 9:22 pm
by Bfields30
OleScout wrote:Panels with wood posts.

Heavy duty panels ??? Or the cattle panels ??? Do you have an example i could see please .