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Best design for permanent facilities?

Post by Hook2.0 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:42 pm

Been searching around, and i have gotten a few ideas. I’m looking for the best design for permanent working facilities including a load out. 50 head. More or less. Metal or wood.
Any must see web pages where there are good plans? Likely something I will work off an existing barn wall on one side.
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Re: Best design for permanent facilities?

Post by kenny thomas » Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:50 pm

Come look at mine next time your up here.
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Post by Hook2.0 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:09 pm

I’ll do that for sure.
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Re: Best design for permanent facilities?

Post by JMJ Farms » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:21 pm

In the process of rebuilding mine right now. So far I’ve got a 100’x105’ pen made of guardrail. I think I’ve got the interior layout worked out but I’m thinking of doing it with HD panels just in case I want to reconfigure. Three
things I want for sure.
1) Alley stops
2) Several Holding pens
3) All gates to swing! Lol
Every lot I’ve ever had someone else built before I came along. In every one, the headgate/squeeze opened up to the outside of the lot. This one definitely will not. It opens up and the cows can go one of three directions depending on gates. Load out pen to right. Holding pens to left. Or straight out into pasture. They are expensive but I don’t believe you can have too many gates.
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Re: Best design for permanent facilities?

Post by TennesseeTuxedo » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:37 pm

I second you on the gates.
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Re: Best design for permanent facilities?

Post by Dave » Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:07 pm

I am in the process of tearing down most of the old corral and installing new. I am keeping the same foot print and using the same kind of material. It is basically about 2/3 of an acre. Three larger pens and two small ones. Think of a square divided into four minus one of the the quarters. That is the basic shape Two of the big pens have a feed bunk and a three sided shed. #1 has a 14 by 40 shed and 84 feet of bunk. The other #2 has a 12 by 36 shed and 60 feet of feed bunk. The two small pens fed into an alley to the squeeze chute which dumped into big pen three. There was no way to easily load out. The trailer had to be pulled into pen three and backed up to the chute. The neighbors who have done that cussed the system. Also anyone who used that chute cussed it too. I took that chute out and will replace it with the newer chute which I brought with me. The chute will now face the other way and empty into the 2 small pens which will empty into the bigger of the feed pens or into pen 3. About 40% of pen 3 will be an alley, two small sorting pens, my sweep tub, crowd alley, squeeze chute, and a curved alley out the the driveway to load out of. I am building out of RR ties and lodge pole pine poles. A permit from the Forest Service cost 3 cents per foot for the poles. The RR ties cost me $18 each for 9 foot ties. I plan to bury the ties 3 feet deep and go 8 rails high. When I was looking at the place my realtor told me he had helped cut the poles (his parents have a ranch about 5 miles from here). Then he got to thinking. He was about 10 when they cut the poles. He is 42 now. I figure if this replacement last another 32 years...... well I will be 99 years old and probably not working a lot of cows. I will draw up my design and scan it and try to post it here.

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Re: Best design for permanent facilities?

Post by Hook2.0 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:56 am

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Re: Best design for permanent facilities?

Post by Caustic Burno » Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:54 am

I used the minimum working pen design on this site for my layout.

https://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$Departmen ... _723-1.pdf
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Post by Hook2.0 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:07 am

Great link cb. Appreciate it
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Re: Best design for permanent facilities?

Post by TennesseeTuxedo » Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:30 am

Caustic Burno wrote:I used the minimum working pen design on this site for my layout.

https://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$Departmen ... _723-1.pdf


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Re: Best design for permanent facilities?

Post by Caustic Burno » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:29 am

Hook2.0 wrote:Great link cb. Appreciate it



No problem
I tweaked the design a little as the loading chute isn’t elevated.
I did use the design dimensions for the 35 worked perfectly for 38 all were nice and tight. Added some extra gates through the years.

I got tired of rebuilding pens through the years made this one out of drill stem.

Couple of pics. Just for ideas to kick around. I have come to conclusion there is no perfect pen . I designed this for one old man.
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Re: Best design for permanent facilities?

Post by shaz » Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:37 am

If you're working by yourself you need as many pens as possible. On the other hand, I helped a guy you had 3 good local cattlemen helping him and he just had one pen that fed into a sweep tub into the longest alley I've seen.

Labor dictates what you build IMO.
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Re: Best design for permanent facilities?

Post by 76 Bar » Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:20 pm

Have that resource filed on my computer CB. Excellent info and impressive set of working corrals.
Often overlooked is the light source be it outside or indoors. Chute facing North in our hemisphere is important...for both cattle and workers.
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Re: Best design for permanent facilities?

Post by Caustic Burno » Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:24 pm

76 Bar wrote:Have that resource filed on my computer CB. Excellent info and impressive set of working corrals.
Often overlooked is the light source be it outside or indoors. Chute facing North in our hemisphere is important...for both cattle and workers.
Dandy looking terrier...good vermin dog?


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Re: Best design for permanent facilities?

Post by 76 Bar » Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:14 pm

She lives for it.

Thought so...love her take no prisoners presence. Lucky you. :heart:

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