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Postby Cross-7 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:02 pm

Any danger of bred sale barn cows spreading trich to other cattle ?
Being bred and a bull not with them ?
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Re: Trich

Postby ALACOWMAN » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:08 pm

I believe the cow is able to eventually shed the virus.the bull cant.. And the only way to transmit, is from bull to cow, or vice Versa Not cow to cow....
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Postby Bright Raven » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:12 pm

Its a protozoan venereal disease. The means of transmission from cow to cow is via the bull. It would seem impossible for one cow to transmit it to another cow. But if you bring an infected cow into your herd and she infects your bull, the bull will transmit it to the next cow he breeds.
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Re: Trich

Postby Bright Raven » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:12 pm

ALACOWMAN wrote:I believe the cow is able to eventually shed the virus.the bull cant.. And the only way to transmit, is from bull to cow, or vice Versa Not cow to cow....


Not a virus. Protozoan. Otherwise. You are correct.

Trichomonas infects the sheath tissue of the bull.
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Re: Trich

Postby Cross-7 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:15 pm

So no bull, No worries on trich, just taking a gamble on what else they may carrying
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Postby Bright Raven » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:18 pm

Cross-7 wrote:So no bull, No worries on trich, just taking a gamble on what else they may carrying


If no bull, I cannot imagine an epidemiological means of infecting other cows. Unless you were using something in the vagina and then inserting it into other cows without sterilization. For example, a CIDR.
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Re: Trich

Postby Rafter S » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:41 pm

I believe you're pretty safe buying a long bred cow from the barn. It's my understanding that miscarriages from trich usually occur in the first few months of the pregnancy.
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Postby BK9954 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:48 pm

I believe if you bring a cow mounted by an infected bull and she is mounted by your bull it can spread to your whole herd. I have also read that cows can get rid of it in 3-4 months but a bull cannot. Then some guy trying to sell a bull told me you could get rid of it in a bull, left me scratching my head wondering if I missed that article. Either way Auction girls dont go with my herd sire for a while. I had never heard of trich around here until a guy was getting a refund at the auction after a bull tested positive for it. But cow to cow no, I dont think cow culture has gone that direction yet, except a couple gay bulls every once in a while.
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Re: Trich

Postby ALACOWMAN » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:54 pm

Cross-7 wrote:So no bull, No worries on trich, just taking a gamble on what else they may carrying
need to quarantine the cow if possible, to keep a eye on her for shipping fever a few days......usually takes a couple Days to show up in a cow, That's something you don't want running through your herd for sure....those old stockyards are teaming with it
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Postby Caustic Burno » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:56 pm

ALACOWMAN wrote:I believe the cow is able to eventually shed the virus.the bull cant.. And the only way to transmit, is from bull to cow, or vice Versa Not cow to cow....

Correct
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Re: Trich

Postby Cross-7 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:58 pm

Rafter S wrote:I believe you're pretty safe buying a long bred cow from the barn. It's my understanding that miscarriages from trich usually occur in the first few months of the pregnancy.



Buddy of mine bought some young cows mostly 2-4 months bred, good young cows worth the money.
He had to by the whole draft and has too many and offered me the extras
But I'd have to commingle with what I've got.
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Re: Trich

Postby J&D Cattle » Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:58 am

Bright Raven wrote:Its a protozoan venereal disease. The means of transmission from cow to cow is via the bull. It would seem impossible for one cow to transmit it to another cow. But if you bring an infected cow into your herd and she infects your bull, the bull will transmit it to the next cow he breeds.


Buddy bought some older pairs from the sale barn and ended up getting one of his bulls infected. It was a mess but luckily he keeps good records and knew what had possibly been exposed. $4800 2.5 year old bull for slaughter price. Ouch.
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Re: Trich

Postby Bright Raven » Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:18 am

J&D Cattle wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:Its a protozoan venereal disease. The means of transmission from cow to cow is via the bull. It would seem impossible for one cow to transmit it to another cow. But if you bring an infected cow into your herd and she infects your bull, the bull will transmit it to the next cow he breeds.


Buddy bought some older pairs from the sale barn and ended up getting one of his bulls infected. It was a mess but luckily he keeps good records and knew what had possibly been exposed. $4800 2.5 year old bull for slaughter price. Ouch.


That would be painful. Ouch is right. But stuff happens. I got a cow right now whose udder is looking awful. Looks like a cull and she is only on her second calf.
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Re: Trich

Postby Caustic Burno » Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:46 am

J&D Cattle wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:Its a protozoan venereal disease. The means of transmission from cow to cow is via the bull. It would seem impossible for one cow to transmit it to another cow. But if you bring an infected cow into your herd and she infects your bull, the bull will transmit it to the next cow he breeds.


Buddy bought some older pairs from the sale barn and ended up getting one of his bulls infected. It was a mess but luckily he keeps good records and knew what had possibly been exposed. $4800 2.5 year old bull for slaughter price. Ouch.



A bred cow? Sure it wasn't vibrio?
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Re: Trich

Postby J&D Cattle » Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:36 am

Caustic Burno wrote:
J&D Cattle wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:Its a protozoan venereal disease. The means of transmission from cow to cow is via the bull. It would seem impossible for one cow to transmit it to another cow. But if you bring an infected cow into your herd and she infects your bull, the bull will transmit it to the next cow he breeds.


Buddy bought some older pairs from the sale barn and ended up getting one of his bulls infected. It was a mess but luckily he keeps good records and knew what had possibly been exposed. $4800 2.5 year old bull for slaughter price. Ouch.



A bred cow? Sure it wasn't vibrio?


I believe the pairs he bought were sold as unchecked and not open but I'm not certain of that.

Definitely Trich as the bull was Vet checked during his annual semen test when it was discovered. He got to meet Dun's neighbor our State Vet and quarantine several head. Heck of a nice guy he said.
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