Post Oak wrote:I still wanna buy one in the future.
I'm still running a 2012 but next year I plan on a newer model. He's been a solid bull for us.
Post Oak wrote:I still wanna buy one in the future.
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:Post Oak wrote:I still wanna buy one in the future.
I'm still running a 2012 but next year I plan on a newer model. He's been a solid bull for us.
Dogs and Cows wrote:TennesseeTuxedo wrote:Post Oak wrote:I still wanna buy one in the future.
I'm still running a 2012 but next year I plan on a newer model. He's been a solid bull for us.
Any pics of him TT??
Tim
cow pollinater wrote:I really like a whole lot of what I see on those papers. I like to see that low to mid range mature cow weight(very happy to see it, a biggy for me on herefords). I like to see that kind of marbling. I like that they are all pretty similar so someone could really just go pick the one that looks best to them phenotype wise and by the numbers expect to have it perform very similar to the rest of the bulls so there is no bad choice.
The big hole that I see is maternal calving ease and it would be a deal breaker for me.
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:cow pollinater wrote:I really like a whole lot of what I see on those papers. I like to see that low to mid range mature cow weight(very happy to see it, a biggy for me on herefords). I like to see that kind of marbling. I like that they are all pretty similar so someone could really just go pick the one that looks best to them phenotype wise and by the numbers expect to have it perform very similar to the rest of the bulls so there is no bad choice.
The big hole that I see is maternal calving ease and it would be a deal breaker for me.
What papers?
cow pollinater wrote:TennesseeTuxedo wrote:cow pollinater wrote:I really like a whole lot of what I see on those papers. I like to see that low to mid range mature cow weight(very happy to see it, a biggy for me on herefords). I like to see that kind of marbling. I like that they are all pretty similar so someone could really just go pick the one that looks best to them phenotype wise and by the numbers expect to have it perform very similar to the rest of the bulls so there is no bad choice.
The big hole that I see is maternal calving ease and it would be a deal breaker for me.
What papers?
Click on the links he provided.
cow pollinater wrote:I really like a whole lot of what I see on those papers. I like to see that low to mid range mature cow weight(very happy to see it, a biggy for me on herefords). I like to see that kind of marbling. I like that they are all pretty similar so someone could really just go pick the one that looks best to them phenotype wise and by the numbers expect to have it perform very similar to the rest of the bulls so there is no bad choice.
The big hole that I see is maternal calving ease and it would be a deal breaker for me.
mrvictordomino wrote:cow pollinater wrote:I really like a whole lot of what I see on those papers. I like to see that low to mid range mature cow weight(very happy to see it, a biggy for me on herefords). I like to see that kind of marbling. I like that they are all pretty similar so someone could really just go pick the one that looks best to them phenotype wise and by the numbers expect to have it perform very similar to the rest of the bulls so there is no bad choice.
The big hole that I see is maternal calving ease and it would be a deal breaker for me.
Interesting....Folks who study the numbers always find the MCE. There were a couple of bulls in this bloodline back in the eighties that had terrible maternal calving ease numbers. This EPD trait must not be very accurate if for over thirty years of one of the easiest calving herd of cattle cannot make a significant change in these numbers. Since working publicly for over thirty-eight years, and having a cow herd calving on their own with no extra help in calving 30-40 two year old heifers per year, I can assure you that I need problem free cattle first and foremost. Haven't had anyone to be able to explain this to me. One of the qualities of this herd is the calving ease trait.
cow pollinater wrote:mrvictordomino wrote:cow pollinater wrote:I really like a whole lot of what I see on those papers. I like to see that low to mid range mature cow weight(very happy to see it, a biggy for me on herefords). I like to see that kind of marbling. I like that they are all pretty similar so someone could really just go pick the one that looks best to them phenotype wise and by the numbers expect to have it perform very similar to the rest of the bulls so there is no bad choice.
The big hole that I see is maternal calving ease and it would be a deal breaker for me.
Interesting....Folks who study the numbers always find the MCE. There were a couple of bulls in this bloodline back in the eighties that had terrible maternal calving ease numbers. This EPD trait must not be very accurate if for over thirty years of one of the easiest calving herd of cattle cannot make a significant change in these numbers. Since working publicly for over thirty-eight years, and having a cow herd calving on their own with no extra help in calving 30-40 two year old heifers per year, I can assure you that I need problem free cattle first and foremost. Haven't had anyone to be able to explain this to me. One of the qualities of this herd is the calving ease trait.
Not to be arguementative, but you're calving registered heifers, right? My results WILL vary since I'm looking at at least 4% increase in birth weight from heterosis and sometimes as much as 15%. If I bought one of your bulls as a commercial cowman I'd be the one to spot the problem before you would.
Overall they're very good cattle but that's a sticking point for me.
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