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needle breaking off in neck

Post by angus9259 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:47 am

Anyone ever have this happen? What do you do? I should get a neck extender on my chutes to avoid this issue. So far, all the breakoffs I've had have included the end of the syringe so I can find it and have something to pull out. Anyone ever lose an entire needle?



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Re: needle breaking off in neck

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Re: needle breaking off in neck

Post by Aaron » Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:00 am

First thing you should be doing is using detectable needles so there isn't an issue down the food chain.
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Post by Bright Raven » Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:18 am

Have not experienced a broken needle. But your post is valuable. I never thought about it. As last resort, I would call the vet. Hope I don't have to find out.
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Post by angus9259 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:34 am

Aaron wrote:First thing you should be doing is using detectable needles so there isn't an issue down the food chain.


Good point. 20 years in and I wasn't aware there was such a thing. Just googled it.

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Re: needle breaking off in neck

Post by Son of Butch » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:57 pm

Over the years I've broken a couple off just as you described, have never come close to losing one.

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Re: needle breaking off in neck

Post by wbvs58 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:24 am

They are very difficult to find. If you shave the skin carefully you might find the entry point however the skin has usually moved over where the needle is. I take it that it is the heifer with "the bladder infection" that you were giving penicillin to, in which case once the skin is cut through leakage of the white penicillin might give a bit of a clue to the whereabouts but still very difficult to find.

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Post by angus9259 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:58 am

wbvs58 wrote:They are very difficult to find. If you shave the skin carefully you might find the entry point however the skin has usually moved over where the needle is. I take it that it is the heifer with "the bladder infection" that you were giving penicillin to, in which case once the skin is cut through leakage of the white penicillin might give a bit of a clue to the whereabouts but still very difficult to find.

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Funny. Yes - it was her but I've broken them before at the syringe tip but never the needle. I guess it's good the syringe tip breaks! I don't have a neck extender of my chute so between lunging and pulling back it's hard to find a spot on the neck where they can't break it off with the headgate if they work on it long enough.

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Post by Nite Hawk » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:11 am

I have had close calls with needles bending , so far never a break,( say a prayer!) but am as careful as possible trying to avoid that happening.
One lady who worked in a vet office told me to do all needles under the skin instead of intra-muscular unless it is an absolutely-- "a have to situation." She told me that if a needle breaks under the skin it usually don't "travel" and kill the animal, or end up on a dinner plate, versus in the muscle where it can travel....
Also, now the local 4-H recommends giving intra-muscular needles in an area other than the rear end so the choice meat cuts are not potentially damaged...
Sounds reasonable to me

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Post by kenny thomas » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:16 pm

Use a steel shank instead of plastic and breaking will be rare.
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Re: needle breaking off in neck

Post by ddd75 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:41 am

put a holder in there nose and tie them off to the opposite side.

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Post by callmefence » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:56 am

ddd75 wrote:put a holder in there nose and tie them off to the opposite side.


What he said..



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