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Re: Corral ground/dealing with mud

Postby Till-Hill » Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:36 pm

I've got plenty of mud! Work on side hill? My place is pretty much a slope but clay muddy crap when rains. Up close to the shed would be nice if works the way y'all say it does
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Re: Corral ground/dealing with mud

Postby BigBear » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:40 am

Till-Hill wrote:I've got plenty of mud! Work on side hill? My place is pretty much a slope but clay muddy crap when rains. Up close to the shed would be nice if works the way y'all say it does


I would imagine it would work on a Hill side but I would definitely try to anchor the fabric on the high side in some way and add lots of gravel so it doesn’t slide. If you could start unrolling where it’s flat then down the hill that could anchor it as well. I’ve used the geo fabric a couple times but only on a relatively flat grade. I do know the stuff works as advertised but that doesn’t stop me from trying to be a cheap skate lol
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Re: Corral ground/dealing with mud

Postby Silver » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:10 pm

My preference would be non woven, but with any geo textile the secret is to put enough fill over top of it. I would want a foot at least. Nothing worse than having that stuff surface. You want enough on top to form a bridge, because with that separation layer your surface material can only bond to itself.
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Re: Corral ground/dealing with mud

Postby Aaron » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:22 pm

3' trench for tile, get tile with sock and backfill completely with coarse gravel. Space tile lines 30' apart. Forget everything else, as you will never have mud issues again.
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Re: Corral ground/dealing with mud

Postby ddd75 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:41 am

lowes is the cheapest place I've found geotextile. you have to order it in. its good stuff.
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Re: Corral ground/dealing with mud

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:17 am

Tile works well, but does not take care of all the problems by itself = maybe depending on soils.
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Re: Corral ground/dealing with mud

Postby Brute 23 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:45 am

Yall put some dirt back over the gravel I assume?
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Re: Corral ground/dealing with mud

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:49 am

Brute 23 wrote:Yall put some dirt back over the gravel I assume?

NO - finished off with stone dust or fine gravel & rolled.
My guy puts 14 inches of grave over fabric. Starts out with big stone, then medium, then fine.
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Re: Corral ground/dealing with mud

Postby Brute 23 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:26 am

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:
Brute 23 wrote:Yall put some dirt back over the gravel I assume?

NO - finished off with stone dust or fine gravel & rolled.
My guy puts 14 inches of grave over fabric. Starts out with big stone, then medium, then fine.


Got ya. I was wondering how yall topped it. Thanks :tiphat:
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Re: Corral ground/dealing with mud

Postby BigBear » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:01 am

ddd75 wrote:lowes is the cheapest place I've found geotextile. you have to order it in. its good stuff.


Thanks ddd. I will be getting a quote from them as well as White Cap. My FIL says they’re the cheapest. We will see
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Re: Corral ground/dealing with mud

Postby ddd75 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:05 am

BigBear wrote:
ddd75 wrote:lowes is the cheapest place I've found geotextile. you have to order it in. its good stuff.


Thanks ddd. I will be getting a quote from them as well as White Cap. My FIL says they’re the cheapest. We will see


no problem .. theres a concrete company in springfield called bryce hill that carries it.. after my b!tching they now have it the same price as lowes.

If you need it quickly they usually have it in stock and ready. i go to them now.
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Re: Corral ground/dealing with mud

Postby NonTypicalCPA » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:13 pm

Aaron wrote:3' trench for tile, get tile with sock and backfill completely with coarse gravel. Space tile lines 30' apart. Forget everything else, as you will never have mud issues again.


I'm thinking along these lines in my dry lot, which with over 12" of rain in the last month isn't so dry. Do you need to daylight the ends of the tiles to get proper drainage?
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Re: Corral ground/dealing with mud

Postby Aaron » Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:08 pm

NonTypicalCPA wrote:
Aaron wrote:3' trench for tile, get tile with sock and backfill completely with coarse gravel. Space tile lines 30' apart. Forget everything else, as you will never have mud issues again.


I'm thinking along these lines in my dry lot, which with over 12" of rain in the last month isn't so dry. Do you need to daylight the ends of the tiles to get proper drainage?


Wouldn't do much good otherwise. If you got into continual rains, the pipe would fill up with water, backup and not be able to handle anything extra, negating the effect of any tile. Might work if you only got 1/2" rains every 3 weeks like clock work.
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Re: Corral ground/dealing with mud

Postby Aaron » Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:13 pm

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Re: Corral ground/dealing with mud

Postby NonTypicalCPA » Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:43 pm



That’s a nice improvement! Did you use 4” tile? My subsoil is very sandy. Would you recommend a sock tile?
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