Deworming Methods

Cattle problems.

What method of Dewormer do you use?

Pelletized/consumable Dewormer
3
14%
Drench
2
9%
Injectable
7
32%
Pour-on
10
45%
I Never Deworm
0
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Total votes: 22

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Deworming Methods

Post by artesianspringsfarm » Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:12 pm

So,

I would love to hear everyone's strategy, favorite brands, and most importantly methods for deworming. I keep getting awful lice in the spring and want to think through my program. I've heard plenty of talk on here about ineffectiveness of pour on versus other methods etc. but thought it might be interesting if the conversation were had under one umbrella with a poll.



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Re: Deworming Methods

Post by dun » Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:23 pm

Spring drench with valbezan, fall injectable but I don;t recall which and too lazy to go look. Spring we pour with BOSS for flys and lice, fall we pour with Ultra BOSS for the cattle grubs.
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Post by M-5 » Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:24 pm

Drench, Bcg and dun highly recommended it . I tried it and was convinced it's the only way to go.
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Re: Deworming Methods

Post by True Grit Farms » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:12 pm

Dectomax injectable in the fall, and Cydectin injectable in the fall. We have also used Safeguard blocks in the middle of summer. We use UltraSabre for flies and lice. I also mix up a 40% Permethrin solution up in a pump up hand sprayer. And last year we used Corathon ear tags, they seemed to work fairy well.
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Re: Deworming Methods

Post by Bigfoot » Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:46 pm

You left off dicatamous earth.

Just kidding :D
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Post by bse » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:26 am

Long-range wormer, Boss for lice in the spring. Fly tag a little later.

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Post by TexasBred » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:10 am

Cydectin pour on in the spring, Ivomec injectable in the fall. IGR mineral year round for flies.
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Re: Deworming Methods

Post by Caustic Burno » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:23 am

artesianspringsfarm wrote:So,

I would love to hear everyone's strategy, favorite brands, and most importantly methods for deworming. I keep getting awful lice in the spring and want to think through my program. I've heard plenty of talk on here about ineffectiveness of pour on versus other methods etc. but thought it might be interesting if the conversation were had under one umbrella with a poll.


Ultra Saber takes care of lice real well and is fairly inexpensive.
As far as your poll goes I use three methods pour on, injection and medicated cube.
Injection is the only one that will get liver flukes.
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Post by skyhightree1 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:12 am

I like the blocks every 4 months then will give a shot once a year...
I had a steer I gave a shot and had a block out and he still was wormy looking so I then got some eprinex and applied it stronger than what it should have been and now hes looking better and picking up weight.
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Re: Deworming Methods

Post by midTN_Brangusman » Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:03 am

Has anyone ever used Ivermectin and if so how did it work for them? Noticed it yesterday at TSC, about a third of the price as ivomec.

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Post by Caustic Burno » Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:18 am

midTN_Brangusman wrote:Has anyone ever used Ivermectin and if so how did it work for them? Noticed it yesterday at TSC, about a third of the price as ivomec.

Buy it by the gallon it has the same active ingredient as Ivomec just the generic
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Re: Deworming Methods

Post by skyhightree1 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:46 am

remember you get what you pay for.. 48 day withdrawl with ivermectin and 42 with ivomec and 0 with eprinex
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Post by JW IN VA » Fri Mar 18, 2016 12:23 pm

A generic ivermectin should have the same active ingredient as Ivomec but what carrier does it have and is there a difference in formulas for Ivermectin? I don't know but I would think you usually get what you pay for.
As for me,I like to use drench and injectible as opposed to pour-on.I used (and sometimes still do) pour-on but I think all the conditions must be right.If I drench or inject ,I know where it is.I also don't trust a pour-on to get through the thick hair on a small calf's back. :2cents:
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Re: Deworming Methods

Post by Lucky_P » Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:45 pm

I'm a cheap you-know-what. BUT! I've seen too many studies (NOT funded by the drug companies) - illustrating pretty convincingly to me that - particularly with the ivermectin products... even though the generic may have a chemical analysis showing the same concentration of ivermectin as the name-brand Ivomec...efficacies are much poorer.
What good is it if you save a dollar (or $2 or $4...) per animal buying the cheap 'generic'... and it doesn't do anything when you give it at the recommended label dosage? What if you had to give 2 or 3X the label dosage to get the same effect... would it still be such a good deal?
Anymore, I only buy the original name-brand formulation... regardless of what class of dewormer it's in.

Pour-ons? Sure, they're easy to apply... but... they are possibly the least effective method of deworming. Even if you get it all on the cow, and none runs off onto the ground, it's really poorly absorbed - only about 30% of the applied dose actually gets where it needs to be to kill worms - and most of that gets there due to cows licking it off themselves and herdmates.

Using pour-on dewormers for fly control... is madness. I see folks recommending it here all the time... and some will say "I know it's probably not doing a very good job of deworming - but it gets the flies!" But... what it's also doing is selecting for a population of nematode parasites (worms) that are resistant to the class of anthelminthic drug in the pour-on.
If you ever need to use one of that group of drugs again for actual 'deworming'... it probably is not gonna work...
and what we're seeing with most of these parasites is that once you've selected for a population of worms that are resistant to the ivermectins &/or benzimidazoles (white wormers)... that resistance is there FOREVER. Resistance to levamisole seems to taper off over a 15-20 year period, and it may become useful on a premise again... but that appears not to be the case for the other two families of drugs.

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Re: Deworming Methods

Post by skyhightree1 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:58 pm

Lucky I have had great results with the block and the pellets whats your opinions on those or any other Vet.
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