Just wondering if anyone has ever used a BWF bull.

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Just wondering if anyone has ever used a BWF bull.

Post by Ky hills » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:07 pm

:hide: just sitting in a dr office and trying to occupy some time. I know folks use sim angus, limflex and balancers. In my mind though those are still crosses. Has anyone used a BWF f1 Hereford/angus or a Sim Hereford.



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Re: Just wondering if anyone has ever used a BWF bull.

Post by Son of Butch » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:18 pm

Ky hills wrote:
just sitting in a dr office and trying to occupy some time. I know folks use sim angus, limflex and balancers.
In my mind though those are still crosses. Has anyone used a BWF f1 Hereford/angus or a Sim Hereford.

There is nothing new under the sun.... not even black herefords. :)

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Re: Just wondering if anyone has ever used a BWF bull.

Post by Muddy » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:45 pm

I see many F1 black baldy bulls for sale on Craigslist all times.

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Re: Just wondering if anyone has ever used a BWF bull.

Post by rancher1868 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:41 pm

F1 Hereford x Angus bull calves become fancy steers in our outfit. If you want baldies, why not use a Hereford bull on Angus cows, or an Angus bull on Hereford cows. No need to try and reinvent the wheel. There are plenty of good Hereford or Angus bulls available.

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Re: Just wondering if anyone has ever used a BWF bull.

Post by ALACOWMAN » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:54 pm

Think it was a hypo'pathetic question.... :cowboy:
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Re: Just wondering if anyone has ever used a BWF bull.

Post by Ky hills » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:45 pm

ALACOWMAN wrote:Think it was a hypo'pathetic question.... :cowboy:


Hypothetical perhaps wasn't intending it to be pathetic but I reckon in a sense it was given the sentiment about that subject. My basis for the topic is that some crosses have become stabilized like the various American breeds, where as in more recent years F1 Sim Angus, Lim Flex for example have become common place. Over the years I have seen a few very few BWF and Charolais Angus cross Bulls. The resulting calves looked ok though I know hybrid vigor was compromised on mixed cows. I guess my thoughts behind the post was why wouldn't other crosses work in some situations. Not advocating going that route and I agree with another post that there are plenty of Angus or other breeds of bulls available.

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Re: Just wondering if anyone has ever used a BWF bull.

Post by HDRider » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:50 pm

For some reason the stabilization of the Angus/Hereford cross evokes emotion not seen in LimFlex, SimAngus, etc.

Not sure why, but even a newbie like me sees it.
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Re: Just wondering if anyone has ever used a BWF bull.

Post by ALACOWMAN » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:14 pm

When you stabilize the baldie you take away every thing that makes it great in the first place. Mainly Heterosis , and two breeds that really compliment each other......outside of the color patten,its strike two..its like the braford and the F1 tiger.. The F1 cow runs circle around the purebred Braford....and she'll more than likely live twice as long,and makes the commercial man money..
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Re: Just wondering if anyone has ever used a BWF bull.

Post by Ky hills » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:17 pm

ALACOWMAN wrote:When you stabilize the baldie you take away every thing that makes it great.. Mainly Heterosis , and two breeds that really compliment each other......outside of the color patten,its strike two..


Good point.

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Re: Just wondering if anyone has ever used a BWF bull.

Post by HDRider » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:28 pm

Ky hills wrote:
ALACOWMAN wrote:When you stabilize the baldie you take away every thing that makes it great.. Mainly Heterosis , and two breeds that really compliment each other......outside of the color patten,its strike two..


Good point.

Certainly makes sense.
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Re: Just wondering if anyone has ever used a BWF bull.

Post by ALACOWMAN » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:34 pm

HDRider wrote:
Ky hills wrote:
ALACOWMAN wrote:When you stabilize the baldie you take away every thing that makes it great.. Mainly Heterosis , and two breeds that really compliment each other......outside of the color patten,its strike two..


Good point.

Certainly makes sense.
it does :shock: i guess even a blind nut can find a squirrel once in awhile :cowboy:
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Re: Just wondering if anyone has ever used a BWF bull.

Post by ez14. » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:46 pm

ALACOWMAN wrote:
HDRider wrote:
Ky hills wrote:
Good point.

Certainly makes sense.
it does :shock: i guess even a blind nut can find a squirrel once in awhile :cowboy:

Nah. I think you just have some 'Yes men' :lol:

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Re: Just wondering if anyone has ever used a BWF bull.

Post by Lucky » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:52 pm

My neighbor raised a black baldie bull several years ago. It was a good looking bull and raised good calves but everyone talked bad about it. I think it’s just one of those things, kinda like owning a Dodge instead of a Ford or Chevrolet.

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Re: Just wondering if anyone has ever used a BWF bull.

Post by Gators Rule » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:12 pm

ALACOWMAN wrote:
HDRider wrote:
Ky hills wrote:
Good point.

Certainly makes sense.
it does :shock: i guess even a blind nut can find a squirrel once in awhile :cowboy:



Proof that if you chase your tail long enough, you’ll eventually catch that darn thing! :hat:

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Re: Just wondering if anyone has ever used a BWF bull.

Post by elkwc » Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:34 am

I see them no different than a Balancer, SIMM/Angus, etc. I have used a Balancer and guess I would use a Baldie if he was a good one.

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