Simmental vs Angus
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Re: Simmental vs Angus
The Angus is the better bull ... That Simmentals got some big open shoulders. Potential hard calving ...he's pretty course..
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Re: Simmental vs Angus
Do you think solid mouth calves would have a hard time with the delivering the Simmentals calves ? We wouldn’t use him on heifers.
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Re: Simmental vs Angus
How about a picture of the Simmental bull with his head up so you can compare shoulders. A big bull with his head down looks awful.
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Re: Simmental vs Angus
The top picture and the bottom picture where the bulls head down are the angus pics. The middle 2 pics are the Simmental.
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Re: Simmental vs Angus
i agree that they do up to a point..but he's pretty open between the shoulders...look at the top pic, side view with his head up slightly...Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:How about a picture of the Simmental bull with his head up so you can compare shoulders. A big bull with his head down looks awful.
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The Simmental is 18 months and weights 1720. The angus is 3 and weighs 2,200
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Re: Simmental vs Angus
There you go. The Simmental is the better of the two. Angus bull is definitely open shouldered 
They are both pretty darn good bulls. I do agree about the shoulders on the Angus, but I do think the Angus' rump carries further down his hind leg. Both appear to have been raised right and ready to be turned out.
They are both pretty darn good bulls. I do agree about the shoulders on the Angus, but I do think the Angus' rump carries further down his hind leg. Both appear to have been raised right and ready to be turned out.
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Re: Simmental vs Angus
Surely the angus bull has some calves on the ground by now...
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Re: Simmental vs Angus
Exactly. Said he is. He has been with cows. I dont understand Simmental epds. The angus yw and ww are higher ? Is it different from breed to breed? I assume the Simmental calves would have more growth ?
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Re: Simmental vs Angus
Well don't do any thing to change his current status....
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Re: Simmental vs Angus
His CE is decent. He is NOT a growth bull by his numbers. He doesn't have very good numbers across the board - most in the bottom 10% for the breed. Not something I pay much attention to. Do you know his actual WW or his YW?
You cannot compare the Simmental numbers against the Angus numbers.
You cannot compare the Simmental numbers against the Angus numbers.
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Re: Simmental vs Angus
Ww . Which would have bull would have faster growing calves ? The Simmental birthweight I was told is 78 pounds. That’s all the data I have.
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Re: Simmental vs Angus
What breed is the "1/4 CS" on the simmental paper? I can't seem to put that together with anything.
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Re: Simmental vs Angus
CS is 'Commercial Simmental'...essentially an unregistered animal of presumed purebred status(maybe?).
Not sure how ASA considers CS in figuring %
SM ...Jeanne may ...
Not sure how ASA considers CS in figuring %
SM ...Jeanne may ...
