I have 2 calves that are running yellow matter at corner of their eyes. I haven't treated them with anything yet but need to treat for blackleg (7-way shot). Can I also give antibiotics (pen G) or (LA200) on the same day for the cold in their eyes when I do the blackleg? If any other suggestions i'm open for and very appreciative for the advice. Thanks.
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bird dog
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Mine do it off and on. usually in the cooler months. I believe it is allergy related. I have never treated for it since I really wasn't sure what it was. It goes away with time, for me anyway.
Bright Raven
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Tomcolvin":3uukx4z0 said:
You can vaccinate and administer an antibiotic on the same day. Vaccination is a totally different physiological process than treating with an antibiotic.
If the only symptom the calves display is drainage from the eye, you should not be giving an antibiotic.
wbvs58
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Bright Raven":1fppo2bx said:
Ron, what if you were using a live bacterial vaccine? One that comes to mind is Brucellosis (Bangs), Is the Moraxella bovis vaccine a live one?
To the original OP, mastitis preparations containing Cloxacillin is a very usefull topical AB to use in the eye.
Ken
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wbvs58":3fhbngso said:
There would be circumstances where use of an antibiotic would interfere. The Clostridial vaccine is a killed bacteria. So not likely in that case. I am glad you mentioned this. Personally, I think in all cases you would like to obtain your immune response without interference from an antibiotic.
76 Bar
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A thermometer is your best friend. Temp should be normal or slightly elevated dependent on stockmanship and distance to working facilities. Eye itself and animals shouldn't appear distressed e.g. coughing/wheezing. Disinfect your hands between animals.
Guidelines may have changed but it has always been my understanding and policy that giving any form of antibiotics in conjunction with a live vaccine negates or jeopardizes the latter's efficacy.
Guidelines may have changed but it has always been my understanding and policy that giving any form of antibiotics in conjunction with a live vaccine negates or jeopardizes the latter's efficacy.
Bright Raven
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76 Bar":3edlnrb1 said:
Most of the "live" vaccines are viral. Antibiotics are usually organic chemical compounds that disrupt in a predetermined manner the physiology of a bacteria - they are ineffective against viruses. In an example, if you were using Bovi-Shield Gold FP 5 which is a modified live virus preparation and at the same time injected the animal with draxxin. The efficacy of the immune response from the Bovi-shield Gold FP 5 would not be affected - I certainly may be wrong. But antibiotics against bacteria should not affect the immune response from a MLV (modified live virus) preparation.
PS: keep in mind the question was about a Clostridial 7 way vaccine. They are always killed bacteria bacterins.
Bright Raven
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wbvs58":1jwp3f7v said:
Ken, the Moraxella bovis and M. bovoculi are killed bacteria preparations.
wbvs58
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Bright Raven":1ayigyp2 said:
OK thanks Ron.
Ken
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Tomcolvin":2z10tjrb said:
As Ken mentioned you could apply something differently in the eye. If I had that situation, I would simply flush the eye with a mild Solution of baking soda (bicarbonate of sodium). I would not use an antibiotic on that one symptom unless the calves had a high temperature.
Jeanne - Simme Valley
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Generally, the only problem with treating with an antibiotic and vaccinating:
You should not vaccinate unhealthy/ un-thrifty cattle if you want a good response to your vaccination.
Edit: OP, if your calves are eating good and not running a fever, I would not worry about them.
ALWAYS make sure they are SICK before treating with antibiotics. Ears drooping, poor appetite, then check for fever.
You should not vaccinate unhealthy/ un-thrifty cattle if you want a good response to your vaccination.
Edit: OP, if your calves are eating good and not running a fever, I would not worry about them.
ALWAYS make sure they are SICK before treating with antibiotics. Ears drooping, poor appetite, then check for fever.
76 Bar
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Indeed & duly acknowledged. ;-) Jeannie's comments are spot on. Attempted to convey that in my earlier post.
