BYERGO BLACK MAGIC 3348 Fruad?

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Re: BYERGO BLACK MAGIC 3348 Fruad?

Post by Lazy M » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:00 pm

Bright Raven wrote:
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Bright Raven wrote:Luke:

I bet that ground don't look like that this fall. You posted that picture once before. I remember the foothills.

Edited to add: we were posting at the same time. Lol

Yep last year it was a JOY to feed the calves; this year it's a JOB.


Yep. It is awful over here. I cannot stand up on my hillsides.

You barely could under the best conditions :lol2:



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Re: BYERGO BLACK MAGIC 3348 Fruad?

Post by Brookhill Angus » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:29 pm

NEFarmwife wrote:https://m.facebook.com/doddscattle/
You can see pics of our cattle here. Most our operation is the same genetics you use. Much of our operation is commercial but we A.I. everything. Our primary source of income is thru the NHTC program but we do well selling commercial bulls also. We’re transitioning some but we like to diversify.


I checked out your page, very nice herd, they too look well cared for.
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Re: BYERGO BLACK MAGIC 3348 Fruad?

Post by Brookhill Angus » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:33 pm

Lazy M wrote:
Bright Raven wrote:
Lazy M wrote:Yep last year it was a JOY to feed the calves; this year it's a JOB.


Yep. It is awful over here. I cannot stand up on my hillsides.

You barely could under the best conditions :lol2:


Maybe we could open up our farms to Tough Mudder competitions.
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Re: BYERGO BLACK MAGIC 3348 Fruad?

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:14 pm

You would have to add my farm to that competition. Errrr - I hate this mud. Right now, we are getting "mostly" frozen, except where they have already churned things up.
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Re: BYERGO BLACK MAGIC 3348 Fruad?

Post by 76 Bar » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:39 pm

Haven't follow this discussion closely. Got curious and looked up the bull's current ends. Stunned that anyone would want to use such a bull and particularly with a -43.58 $EN coupled with a video that indicates he's conformationally unsound.

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Re: BYERGO BLACK MAGIC 3348 Fruad?

Post by NEFarmwife » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:48 pm

76 Bar wrote:Haven't follow this discussion closely. Got curious and looked up the bull's current ends. Stunned that anyone would want to use such a bull and particularly with a -43.58 $EN coupled with a video that indicates he's conformationally unsound.



We used his son Blackstone. Terminal. We finish our own cattle. Blackstone calves have impressed us to no end. They’re only a week or two old and have a lot of growing to do but they are nice! Finished value, we’ll still come out ahead.

Link to my personal FB with pic of Blackstone. They’re our favorite as calves.
https://www.facebook.com/609586731/posts/10156058585301732/

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Re: BYERGO BLACK MAGIC 3348 Fruad?

Post by 76 Bar » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:59 pm

Thanks for the link. Since you rightly acknowledge the sire line is terminal e.g. progeny destined as feeders/no replacements retained, what determined who you opted to breed to Blackstone?

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Re: BYERGO BLACK MAGIC 3348 Fruad?

Post by NEFarmwife » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:51 pm

76 Bar wrote:Thanks for the link. Since you rightly acknowledge the sire line is terminal e.g. progeny destined as feeders/no replacements retained, what determined who you opted to breed to Blackstone?


Those dams who’ve weaned off good calves. Mostly our Up N Coming (styles upgrade full brother) daughters.

We had 30 straws of him. Six still in the tank.

I’d honestly consider breeding him to a couple of our PB. So while we bred terminal, I would blink twice about using him on a cow or two.

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Re: BYERGO BLACK MAGIC 3348 Fruad?

Post by 76 Bar » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:38 pm

Thanks for the clarification. Obviously you have a group/herd specifically dedicated to maternal genetics as your resource for cows & replacements.

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Re: BYERGO BLACK MAGIC 3348 Fruad?

Post by NEFarmwife » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:56 pm

76 Bar wrote:Thanks for the clarification. Obviously you have a group/herd specifically dedicated to maternal genetics as your resource for cows & replacements.


We sure do. A lot has changed over the last couple years as we’ve transitioned in how we market our cattle. While we’re breeding terminal for finish quality and $, we had already done a great job when it came to quality. We see the results of those efforts when we get our info back at time of slaughter.

We know how many replacements we’d like to have the following year when we plan breedings. We retain 50-60 a year and have grown exponentially over the last 2 with various markets. I.E. purebreds, fall calvers (our red angus), NHTC, and our Okies (critically old bred cows). Last 2 years we’ve nearly doubled in size and we’re either stupid crazy or we’re doing something right. I’d like to think the latter.

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Re: BYERGO BLACK MAGIC 3348 Fruad?

Post by 76 Bar » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:56 pm

Sounds like you have a well thought out, managed & successful operation. :tiphat:
You definitely got my attention when you mentioned the fall calvers were RA. ;-)
ROTFL...I'll bite...what's your definition of critically old?

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Re: BYERGO BLACK MAGIC 3348 Fruad?

Post by NEFarmwife » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:13 am

76 Bar wrote:Sounds like you have a well thought out, managed & successful operation. :tiphat:
You definitely got my attention when you mentioned the fall calvers were RA. ;-)
ROTFL...I'll bite...what's your definition of critically old?


They need dentures. A few are in the 8-10 year range though... just extremely skinny and all these are crossbreeds of about everything out there. We just grabbed them up about 4 months ago. They're out on stalks and we're supplementing them with wet distillers.

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Re: BYERGO BLACK MAGIC 3348 Fruad?

Post by NEFarmwife » Thu Jan 17, 2019 9:35 am

Well, Black Magics heifer pregnancy sold for 65K last night at the opening of the NWSS Angus Bull sale.

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Re: BYERGO BLACK MAGIC 3348 Fruad?

Post by Ebenezer » Thu Jan 17, 2019 1:44 pm

NEFarmwife wrote:Well, Black Magics heifer pregnancy sold for 65K last night at the opening of the NWSS Angus Bull sale.

And that means _____ beyond motion, commotion and promotion? Did you see the check? Sometimes it is better to be on guard against the efforts of some whose sole efforts are to impress themselves.

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Re: BYERGO BLACK MAGIC 3348 Fruad?

Post by Hogtiming » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:31 pm

I can’t see that bull producing females that would be efficient. They may grow but imo they would require a lot of feed

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