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Re: Cattle “first aid kit”

Post by sim.-ang.king » Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:27 pm

greggy wrote:
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All great advise, but no one should own cattle without a rifle of some kind, and know how to use it. At least have a 22 rifle sitting in a truck or barn. 22 magnum is better yet.
Is that to hurry them into the yards ? 😀
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Re: Cattle “first aid kit”

Post by greggy » Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:37 pm

It is a terminal solution, albeit a permanent fix

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Re: Cattle “first aid kit”

Post by Redgully » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:16 am

Brute 23 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:54 pm
Winchester model 94 30-30
If you know how to shoot and are a good shot a .22 is all you need for cattle, even big bulls.

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Re: Cattle “first aid kit”

Post by wbvs58 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:52 am

All very sensible suggestions, the only one I thought that was a bit over the top was TC with her top shelf antibiotics and Dexamethasone and Lutalyse. I don't think these items are first aid however in TC's situation I will excuse her as I know she has a strong relationship with her Vet and would be using them under his guidance. The thing that you must remember with a lot of drugs they are expensive and very rapidly go past their expiry date. Also with multidose bottles once they have been opened and a dose drawn out contamination can shorten that expiry date no matter how carefull you are.

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Re: Cattle “first aid kit”

Post by TCRanch » Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:25 am

wbvs58 wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:52 am
All very sensible suggestions, the only one I thought that was a bit over the top was TC with her top shelf antibiotics and Dexamethasone and Lutalyse. I don't think these items are first aid however in TC's situation I will excuse her as I know she has a strong relationship with her Vet and would be using them under his guidance. The thing that you must remember with a lot of drugs they are expensive and very rapidly go past their expiry date. Also with multidose bottles once they have been opened and a dose drawn out contamination can shorten that expiry date no matter how carefull you are.

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Ken, I got to thinking, specifically about antibiotics for respiratory, and I believe geography plays a huge role in what would be appropriate to keep on hand. Kansas weather can swing up/down 30 degrees in a matter of hours and especially the past couple years, pneumonia is always a potential threat (primarily for calves & regardless of your vaccination protocol). LA200/300 is a great antibiotic to have on hand but it makes my head hurt when someone notices a calf is "off" and automatically grabs the LA without first taking its temp and determining what is actually wrong; it's over-used, misused and won't do squat for pneumonia. Precisely why it will soon require a prescription in the US (similar to the Veterinary Feed Directive/VFD).

And absolutely, working with your vet is the best way to determine what the essentials should be for your operation.

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Re: Cattle “first aid kit”

Post by Brute 23 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:28 am

Redgully wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:16 am
Brute 23 wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:54 pm
Winchester model 94 30-30
If you know how to shoot and are a good shot a .22 is all you need for cattle, even big bulls.
Ya but I use it as a multitool for hogs also. :)
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Re: Cattle “first aid kit”

Post by greggy » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:44 pm

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Antibiotic, and a way to administer, whether syringe or dart, sulfa. If cow/calf, ob tape, needles, calf puller, etc etc. Most important, Patience, and a good vet's number. If you got em, you're gonna lose em eventually. Second the electrolytes and colostrum. Mostly, I use the fence stretchers. Thermometer!
Fence stretcher ?

You mean the hayes type tensioner that walks up the chain ? For pulling calves ?

Or is this a ploy to give more body length ? :D :D :D

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Re: Cattle “first aid kit”

Post by MurraysMutts » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:53 pm

I got a rope fer pulling calves. Actually a ratchet strap.
Saved a few that way.
Baling wire
Duct tape
A pen and trailer to get em to the vet when those dont work.
Got a good .41 mag for when all else fails
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Re: Cattle “first aid kit”

Post by darcelina4 » Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:24 pm

Banamine, baytril, nuflor, sustain 3, la300, penicillin,
bloat treatment, esophageal feeder, baking soda, electrolytes, chlorhexidine, today mastitis treatment, 16, 18, 20 gage needles, 3cc, 6cc, 12cc, 20cc, 50cc syringes, rolled cotton, vet wrap, sterile gauze pads, blue kote spray, wound ointment, lotrimon ointment, flash light with extra batteries, thermometer, a good sturdy brace helper, a means to restrain the animal, several sizes of bolus plungers. Have well thought out protocols and stick with them. Dont panic.

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Re: Cattle “first aid kit”

Post by Katpau » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:23 pm

In addition to the items mentioned by others, I keep a roll of dental floss in my calving supplies. Fishing line will also work. We check on and weigh each calf as soon after birth as possible. While doing this we sometimes find a newborn that is bleeding from the navel. It usually appears the cow was over enthusiastic in cleaning the calf, or perhaps the calf caught it on something while rising. We tie off the umbilical up close to the belly. I am not sure if that bleeding is life threatening, but some are bleeding pretty heavy and I worry it could be a problem.

We also keep on hand vet wrap, an LA 300 product, a box of 16 gauge 5/8" needles for subQ shots (Most vaccinations are SubQ), a box of 18 gauge 1 1/2" needles for intramuscular (IM) shots, several automatic syringes and a selection of the cheap plastic syringes in sizes from just 3 cc to 45 cc, a bag of good bovine colostrum replacement and some electrolytes. There is usually a partial bag of left over milk replacer on hand too. We also have a calf puller, but we have only needed it once or twice in the last 20 years. Careful selection of genetics can save you a lot of problems. If you are new to cows, I would suggest calling a Vet if you're in a situation that appears to need the puller.

Our cows calve out in the hills. We check two or three times per day to see who doesn't come down for hay, and then locate those cows and their new calves. My calving kit is in the ATV and consists of a calf catcher hook, small halter, a scale, chains and handles (just in case we find a calving problem), iodine for the navel, dental floss, and a flake of good hay or alfalfa for the cow. When the calf is already a few hours old, the hook can come in handy for catching it. The halter is put on the calf to hold it while we weigh and treat the navel. The cow gets the hay as a distraction. The halter also works in case we find a problem, such as twins, and we want to catch the cow. We can just lead the calf down to a pen and the cow follows. We've culled all cows that are aggressive towards us with their calves, so this works.

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Re: Cattle “first aid kit”

Post by snoopdog » Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:03 pm

greggy wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:44 pm
snoopdog wrote:
Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:14 pm
Antibiotic, and a way to administer, whether syringe or dart, sulfa. If cow/calf, ob tape, needles, calf puller, etc etc. Most important, Patience, and a good vet's number. If you got em, you're gonna lose em eventually. Second the electrolytes and colostrum. Mostly, I use the fence stretchers. Thermometer!
Fence stretcher ?

You mean the hayes type tensioner that walks up the chain ? For pulling calves ?

Or is this a ploy to give more body length ? :D :D :D
Well, if you stretch the frame, at the beginning, weaning weights will be higher :lol2:
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Re: Cattle “first aid kit”

Post by greggy » Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:49 pm

Is it the hayes type tensioner you use ?

How do you attach to feet or whatever.....am curious...

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Re: Cattle “first aid kit”

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:11 pm

You need a large animal vet. In order to expect one to come to your farm for an emergency (generally late at night), you need to have one come to your farm and go over your program and agree to be your vet.
If you call a vet's office, and you are NOT a client, they will not come out on an emergency call.
Some have really gone over-board. Yes, if you looked in our supply cabinets, refrigerators, etc you would find 20X that much "STUFF", but just starting out, you can't buy everything.
18 x 1" needle and 10/12 cc syringe should get you by. Epinephrine is always good to have on hand. Thermometer - old fashion, no battery works just fine.
Get a vet out and have him suggest what meds you should have on hand for emergencies you can take care of.
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Re: Cattle “first aid kit”

Post by snoopdog » Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:32 pm

greggy wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:49 pm
Is it the hayes type tensioner you use ?

How do you attach to feet or whatever.....am curious...
We have a ratchet type with chains , that was gifted to us,that we haven't used. But I have used baling twine, with my feet on her hips, on the frozen ground. You can't win all the battles, lost one today, that was birthed unassisted.
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Re: Cattle “first aid kit”

Post by TexasBred » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:12 am

hmmm first aid kit. I have needles, syringes, epinephrine, one bottle of antibiotics, dextrose solution, CMPK solution, IV set, bottle of 7% Iodine, OB Chain, and OB gloves.
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