Hay shares

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Hay shares

Post by Bn42188 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:13 pm

I went and looked at some land today with the landowner he is wanting me to put it up in hay for him. He is want to do shares untold him 2/3 and 1/3 to him. The only issue we are having is he doesnt want his hay he would rather have many then the small squares. I guess my question is what do other people do in this situation and how much do you pay for his share. It's around 25 acres and it's just mixed grass hay mostly fescue. Nice thing is it's only about 3 miles from home. Thanks for the advice.



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Re: Hay shares

Post by TennesseeTuxedo » Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:46 pm

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2/3 to 1/3 is reasonable but it has to be the same across the board, either all rolls or all square bales to truly be fair. I assume I’m reading your scenario correctly.
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Re: Hay shares

Post by Brute 23 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:29 pm

Can you split it by acres? Get on one of these websites and figure out roughly what your 2/3 of the pasture is and what his 1/3 is.
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Re: Hay shares

Post by farmerjan » Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:38 pm

Can you do it by weight? Weigh some of your sq bales, and your round bales.... then come up with a basis... Say a round bale out of the field at 5x5 of mixed grass/fescue is 1000 lbs...... your average sq bale is 50 lbs. 20 sq bales for each round bale.
Don't forget that there is more labor in the sq bales if you have to load, or unload too.....

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Re: Hay shares

Post by Bn42188 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:13 pm

Sorry itll all be into squares I guess my question is how do I make it fair since he really doesnt want his share but wants money for it

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Re: Hay shares

Post by littletom » Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:28 pm

Buy his third from him, He can then buy what he wants

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Re: Hay shares

Post by Bn42188 » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:00 pm

Sorry they will all be small square bales. I guess my question is he doesnt want his 1/3 he just wants the money what's a fair way to sort it out. I dont really need the extra hay and dont have a place to store to sell it

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Re: Hay shares

Post by SmokinM » Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:01 am

If you can find a buyer to make money on it then buy it from him and resell out of the field. If it is decent hay and any horse people around then that should be easy enough. If not then tell him you will do it but not interested in his third and he should find a buyer for it. Let it be his headache. 25 acres if it’s decent hay is a lot of bales to stack.

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Re: Hay shares

Post by SDM » Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:28 am

With the 2/3-1/3 deal, who is responsible for fertilizer?

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Re: Hay shares

Post by Brute 23 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:23 am

Bn42188 wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:00 pm
Sorry they will all be small square bales. I guess my question is he doesnt want his 1/3 he just wants the money what's a fair way to sort it out. I dont really need the extra hay and dont have a place to store to sell it
Sounds like you will have to cut a check and find a place to put it. No other way around that. Yall probably should agree on price per bale before you cut it.

Or just tell him if he wants to sell it that he needs to sell it to some one else so you dont have to hassel with it.
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Re: Hay shares

Post by chaded » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:43 am

SDM wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:28 am
With the 2/3-1/3 deal, who is responsible for fertilizer?
I share my hayfields and we do a 50/50 split and I cover whatever fertilizer and they make the hay. If I did 2/3s they would cover it. But that’s here.

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Re: Hay shares

Post by Bn42188 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:58 am

What would a fair price be on buying his share from him on mix square bales everything I sold last year was 4 to 5 bucks

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Re: Hay shares

Post by callmefence » Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:27 pm

chaded wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:43 am
SDM wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:28 am
With the 2/3-1/3 deal, who is responsible for fertilizer?
I share my hayfields and we do a 50/50 split and I cover whatever fertilizer and they make the hay. If I did 2/3s they would cover it. But that’s here.
Same. If they provide the fertilizer and spray weeds 50/50. If I do it's 2/3
If they don't want the hay we buy their share at a slight dicount to cover handling.
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Re: Hay shares

Post by farmerjan » Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:35 pm

We custom make the hay for a guy and he gets squares. We cut, rake and bale. We charge him $2.50 a square bale, on the wagons (kicker wagons). He fertilizes and he unloads. It is right next to another place we make hay so convenient. No fences or water so not able to run cattle on it. He sells us any he doesn't want for the same price which we still make money on if we sell, or it just gives us a cushion for our sheep and calves. Probably could charge $3.00 but it is a neighbor thing and he doesn't skimp with the fertilizer so it makes a good stand of hay if we get the rain so it is worth the time to get a real good cutting.

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Re: Hay shares

Post by SDM » Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:09 pm

callmefence wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:27 pm
chaded wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:43 am
SDM wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:28 am
With the 2/3-1/3 deal, who is responsible for fertilizer?
I share my hayfields and we do a 50/50 split and I cover whatever fertilizer and they make the hay. If I did 2/3s they would cover it. But that’s here.
Same. If they provide the fertilizer and spray weeds 50/50. If I do it's 2/3
If they don't want the hay we buy their share at a slight dicount to cover handling.
Thank you both. I've got some ground a neighbor has been baling with an informal agreement. I need to make it more formal I think.

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