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  1. jdg

    Ohlde vs EPDS

    Echo has a fascinating pedigree. I believe the story goes that he hid the bull because he looked like such a dud because of inbreeding depression, but yet served his purpose well. Larry knew what he was doing. I believe the colored tags were based on his three groups: strictly maternal...
  2. jdg

    Ohlde vs EPDS

    While I didn't know Larry personally, I know of his program and the influence it has had on the good black cattle left in the country. My close friend Ed Oliver visited Larry one time (I believe they had developed a mutual admiration through correspondence) and they become such good friends...
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    Ohlde vs EPDS

    Old line Angus cattle prefer the environment that they were bred in for a 100 years (temperate climate with mild summers), but if you select them long enough they will adjust. My registered black program are adapting and wean solid calves that finish and marble on grass, but I am also cross...
  4. jdg

    Ohlde vs EPDS

    I will caveat my statement by saying that I have limited first hand experience with Ohlde bred cattle, although I own a few. His name in a pedigree will represent from a true maternal style cow (OCC Homer) to verging on the terminal without huge frame (OCC Anchor). My bloodlines come through...
  5. jdg

    Oak Hollow

    I get about 50 sale catalogues a year. First thing I do is open them up and see how many cattle in the breeding tree have their own names in the pedigrees. I throw 45 or more directly in the trash. Besides buying the Senepol bulls a couple years ago for a cross breeding program, haven't...
  6. jdg

    Oak Hollow

    I've had the privilege of traveling to quite a few herds across the country. I love seeing folks operations, talking genetics and forages, and taking home some nugget. Having imported cattle over the years, I have certainly had some successes, but nothing will move your herd forward like...
  7. jdg

    Oak Hollow

    Mr. Lowe and his son are honest, no-nonsense, hard working folks, and breed with purpose and vision. I haven't sampled their genetics, but have spent a day touring their herd. They are one of the few breeders left carrying forth the original Graham Angus genetics in those pedigrees. I would...
  8. jdg

    Very, Very Old Angus Genetics

    From my experience, the farther you go back, the less likely those cows will work below a certain latitude. They don't appreciate South Ga. We've had a tick of George of Swiftbrook and Ballot of Belladrum, Jipsey Early, Dunloise Red Native and some older Wye bulls 1-2 generations back in the...
  9. jdg

    Picking heifers

    Girls are quite consistent and look nice. Gizmon, how do you develop your heifers post weaning?
  10. jdg

    Sustainable Genetics

    Howdy BFE- I'm one of the partners in Sustainable Genetics. My mentor Bill Hodge has been at it for a bit longer, but I've been breeding cattle for reproductive longevity in the SE for the past 10 years. I've seen M178 daughters in fescue country and they were thriving. I owned 4013 at the...
  11. jdg

    HAR Pinebank 433 202

    I've seen 202's mother at Hague Angus Ranch in NE, and she was just about the soggiest ground sow i've ever seen. She looked like you took two overfed Oldhe cows and smashed them together. I also had the privilege of seeing 202 in person at Mark Deboo's at Diamond D. He was one of the most...
  12. jdg

    South Poll vs Beefmaster

    NCboy34....I will let you know about the cross in the coming years...first calves due in early March. You should come down and visit considering your goals. I've been doing this for coming on a decade (Deep Grass Graziers). Making progress but still honing the genetics. Somebody else chime...
  13. jdg

    South Poll vs Beefmaster

    Certainly some variation within the breeds, but you should consider your end market goals. The beefmaster is more likely to give you more milk and growth, whereas the South Poll is more likely to produce moderate to small framed, low-input, maternally focused offspring. I own neither, so take...
  14. jdg

    Heifers

    How do you develop your heifers, post weaning? Curious of others protocols in our area. Girls look quite feminine.
  15. jdg

    what do ya'll think of my Black Angus cow?

    if she aint a beefalo, that bottom line slope tell's me she aint very fertile.
  16. jdg

    Environment Cattle

    In a perfect world, everyone would have a neighbor that has been breeding a maternal herd ( selecting for environmental reproductive longevity) and sells replacement 3 in 1's as second calf cows for a fair price. That way when you buy them you don't have to calve a heifer or get her bred back...
  17. jdg

    Environment Cattle

    I have heard from many cattlemen that cattle typically do better going west than coming east. (I wouldn't send floppy eared brahmin's to the dakotas though) I completely agree with the notion that the environment is the best sorter of cattle. Heat, humidity, low energy grasses, and fescue...
  18. jdg

    Angus Maternal sires

    I visited Bradley 3 Ranch a few years back and was very impressed with the way they raise their cow herd. As seedstock producers, they don't make excuses for their cattle, have a 45 day breeding calendar, and cull cows that don't WEAN a calf. I was impressed. I was going to buy semen on the...
  19. jdg

    Registered Black Angus having a red calf?

    To me it's like children who have built palatial forts and don't allow the other team entrance. These cattle trace to the same lineages, and simply either have the red trait, or don't. For those of us who breed both, its a real nuisance to deal with both registration programs. First world...
  20. jdg

    How much Angus is to much?

    I believe Bos Indicus reach puberty later than Bos Taurus, and across the board are less docile. (Of course i'm sure there's plenty of Bos Indicus that are as tame as a puddy cat, but I've been around more than a few that would take your head off.) In many parts of the country, ear is docked...
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