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<blockquote data-quote="SPH" data-source="post: 1749275" data-attributes="member: 20580"><p>The great frame score debate lives on! My thoughts are if someone doesn't like bulls under a certain frame score such as a 6 or 7 the bull better have some guts to him because there are plenty of 6 and 7 frame score bulls out there that are more leg than guts than what some of the 5+ frame size bulls have. Chasing frame size can sometimes lead you down a path where you are sacrificing some traits just to add a couple inches of height if you aren't careful. Have seen it in the past in the Hereford breed where there was a time everyone was chasing a 7+ frame and the result was a bunch of flat muscled long legged animals with no guts and butts.</p><p></p><p>As others have said here, know your environment and market and make your decisions accordingly. Anyone selling seedstock should know what performs well for their buyer base and be trying to replicate a consistent looking animal in phenotype that their customers want. There's nothing wrong with "moderate" sized cattle if you breed them right just like there is nothing wrong with larger framed cattle too if you aren't just breeding them for the sake of taller hip heights.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SPH, post: 1749275, member: 20580"] The great frame score debate lives on! My thoughts are if someone doesn't like bulls under a certain frame score such as a 6 or 7 the bull better have some guts to him because there are plenty of 6 and 7 frame score bulls out there that are more leg than guts than what some of the 5+ frame size bulls have. Chasing frame size can sometimes lead you down a path where you are sacrificing some traits just to add a couple inches of height if you aren't careful. Have seen it in the past in the Hereford breed where there was a time everyone was chasing a 7+ frame and the result was a bunch of flat muscled long legged animals with no guts and butts. As others have said here, know your environment and market and make your decisions accordingly. Anyone selling seedstock should know what performs well for their buyer base and be trying to replicate a consistent looking animal in phenotype that their customers want. There's nothing wrong with "moderate" sized cattle if you breed them right just like there is nothing wrong with larger framed cattle too if you aren't just breeding them for the sake of taller hip heights. [/QUOTE]
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