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<blockquote data-quote="Ky hills" data-source="post: 1793984" data-attributes="member: 24816"><p>I agree with you that stacking extreme calving ease for multiple generations is likely not a great idea in the long run.</p><p>However, in some instances, this situation being a good example, I stand by my recommendation of a calving ease Angus bull. These are unknown cows, that are described as being stunted and at least some are in poor condition. To me since they are believed to be likely high percentage Angus, it makes sense to go with a calving ease bull of the same breed. This gives those cows a chance to have a smaller calf which is less stress on them and without the hybrid vigor effect that increases birthweight, and also increases the nutritional demand in the cow in raising the calf.</p><p>Had this been a herd of cows of average size or bigger and better condition then by all means the road would be open as far as options.</p><p>For my herd, I don't like to push the situation with high birthweight bulls, but prefer to stay around the breed average for cows. Since we do calve heifers out a little on the young side sometimes, I am a believer in calving ease bulls for them and prefer Angus in that role.</p><p>I would not use a continental bull at all for heifers of British breeding, and would only use CE, and BW of breed average or below with continental bulls on British breed cows.</p><p>Just based on my experience, other folks may have different results as there are so many variables.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ky hills, post: 1793984, member: 24816"] I agree with you that stacking extreme calving ease for multiple generations is likely not a great idea in the long run. However, in some instances, this situation being a good example, I stand by my recommendation of a calving ease Angus bull. These are unknown cows, that are described as being stunted and at least some are in poor condition. To me since they are believed to be likely high percentage Angus, it makes sense to go with a calving ease bull of the same breed. This gives those cows a chance to have a smaller calf which is less stress on them and without the hybrid vigor effect that increases birthweight, and also increases the nutritional demand in the cow in raising the calf. Had this been a herd of cows of average size or bigger and better condition then by all means the road would be open as far as options. For my herd, I don’t like to push the situation with high birthweight bulls, but prefer to stay around the breed average for cows. Since we do calve heifers out a little on the young side sometimes, I am a believer in calving ease bulls for them and prefer Angus in that role. I would not use a continental bull at all for heifers of British breeding, and would only use CE, and BW of breed average or below with continental bulls on British breed cows. Just based on my experience, other folks may have different results as there are so many variables. [/QUOTE]
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