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<blockquote data-quote="Beef Man" data-source="post: 754565" data-attributes="member: 13859"><p>Many years ago when the hereford cow was the queen and the hereford bull the king of the prairie it became fashionable to leave every bull calf as a bull because you could sell them anyway. Along came the exotics and the angus they were mated with queen hereford. Bingo hybred vigor kicked in and all the credit went to the sire breed. About that time since the hereford was the predominate breed the feeders and order buyers decided it was time to discount the many whiteface cattle and it would help their bottum line imensely[which it did]. The breeders of note decided to get into a horse race with the continetal's[most of them were never bred to be only beef cattle] and breed them bigger even if they gave up muscle milk disposition hardiness fertility etc. and they did. The hereford 's were 'nt then or are'nt now strictley a terminal breed,and we as breeders surely know that. A old cowman once told me that most of the european cattle would'nt have made it in the U.S. if it had'nt of been forthe hereford cow . Along came the astute Angus people and steped into this mess and took advantage of the situation. They had people like Pat Goggins{ who had said when he started his first angus herd that "we'll paint the west black"] . He and others seeing the opportunity did a admirable job, they now may have it to black,as it is hard sometimes to tell angus from many others when they fill the ring full of calves. Herefords are a great beef animal but do dress less than most cattle a lot of times due to hide weight and just will dress more. They should have a great advantage withthose who are health concince as they absolutely do not have to be choice fat to taste as good and are just as tenderas most any other fatter cattle. I have a meat biz and the question never is are they choice . A whole lot of the new younger breeders and feeders have all at once discovered that cattle with whiteface's are just preety darn animals. A whole lot that has happened to the breed was brought on by the breeders themselves.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Beef Man, post: 754565, member: 13859"] Many years ago when the hereford cow was the queen and the hereford bull the king of the prairie it became fashionable to leave every bull calf as a bull because you could sell them anyway. Along came the exotics and the angus they were mated with queen hereford. Bingo hybred vigor kicked in and all the credit went to the sire breed. About that time since the hereford was the predominate breed the feeders and order buyers decided it was time to discount the many whiteface cattle and it would help their bottum line imensely[which it did]. The breeders of note decided to get into a horse race with the continetal's[most of them were never bred to be only beef cattle] and breed them bigger even if they gave up muscle milk disposition hardiness fertility etc. and they did. The hereford 's were 'nt then or are'nt now strictley a terminal breed,and we as breeders surely know that. A old cowman once told me that most of the european cattle would'nt have made it in the U.S. if it had'nt of been forthe hereford cow . Along came the astute Angus people and steped into this mess and took advantage of the situation. They had people like Pat Goggins{ who had said when he started his first angus herd that "we'll paint the west black"] . He and others seeing the opportunity did a admirable job, they now may have it to black,as it is hard sometimes to tell angus from many others when they fill the ring full of calves. Herefords are a great beef animal but do dress less than most cattle a lot of times due to hide weight and just will dress more. They should have a great advantage withthose who are health concince as they absolutely do not have to be choice fat to taste as good and are just as tenderas most any other fatter cattle. I have a meat biz and the question never is are they choice . A whole lot of the new younger breeders and feeders have all at once discovered that cattle with whiteface's are just preety darn animals. A whole lot that has happened to the breed was brought on by the breeders themselves. [/QUOTE]
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