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<blockquote data-quote="CattleMan1920" data-source="post: 1557816" data-attributes="member: 37967"><p>That's interesting, but I have a question. Why if you were in, say, Kentucky, would you try to emulate the methods of raising cattle as if you were in Arizona or West Texas? Our farm has so much water everywhere, that a cow can walk 20 feet and have something to drink. We use waterers just as back up if things dry up in the summer, which even then, there is still natural sources, just not as clean as I would like, hence the waterers. </p><p></p><p>I've spoken to Western producers that seriously think I'm lying to them when I say that I can run 2 cow/calf pairs per acre during spring/summer/fall. Maybe more if I really wanted to push it and we had rain. Think about that, a 100 acre farm, if rotationally grazed using electric, could handle nearly 200 head in the summer. If I wanted to crowd things up in the summer, I could keep 4 pairs per acre. How many acres would you need to run 4 pairs in Montana or Colorado? 150-200? I seed our fields with ladino and red clover, along with orchard grass, and timothy. Use a chain harrow to get that manure worked in and when the rain comes on hard in the spring and our fields look like a "Chia Pet" As I said on an earlier post, we have a Woods batwing mower that is used 4-5 times a year on the pastures just to keep them from going wild, the cattle can't keep them mowed down. The downside of this environment is the endless amount of mud that we deal with in the winter, I don't know about the cattle, which seem to deal with it pretty well, but I can barely walk through it, and it tires me out after an hour or so in mud over my ankles, not to mention that even a 4x4 Gator can sometimes get hung up out here. Forget cowboy boots, the only thing cattle producers wear here are rubber boots, knee high at that.</p><p></p><p>Our cows will eat that clover and grass non-stop until they look like they are about to burst. In fact our cows are almost always bigger in the summer than the winter. </p><p></p><p>If I were out west, I can absolutely guarantee you that I would be running a different operation. I know our cows would not look the same. But that's not the case. </p><p></p><p>Take a look at this cow from 44 Farms. Is she fat? Does she not have worth? She sold, I think for $500k.</p><p></p><p>I would take her in a nano second, and would be thrilled to have her embyros. Her calves would thrive on our operation. Would they thrive in a desert type setting? Probably not.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://cattletoday.com/forum/app.php/gallery/image/151" target="_blank"><img src="https://cattletoday.com/forum/app.php/gallery/image/151/mini" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CattleMan1920, post: 1557816, member: 37967"] That's interesting, but I have a question. Why if you were in, say, Kentucky, would you try to emulate the methods of raising cattle as if you were in Arizona or West Texas? Our farm has so much water everywhere, that a cow can walk 20 feet and have something to drink. We use waterers just as back up if things dry up in the summer, which even then, there is still natural sources, just not as clean as I would like, hence the waterers. I've spoken to Western producers that seriously think I'm lying to them when I say that I can run 2 cow/calf pairs per acre during spring/summer/fall. Maybe more if I really wanted to push it and we had rain. Think about that, a 100 acre farm, if rotationally grazed using electric, could handle nearly 200 head in the summer. If I wanted to crowd things up in the summer, I could keep 4 pairs per acre. How many acres would you need to run 4 pairs in Montana or Colorado? 150-200? I seed our fields with ladino and red clover, along with orchard grass, and timothy. Use a chain harrow to get that manure worked in and when the rain comes on hard in the spring and our fields look like a "Chia Pet" As I said on an earlier post, we have a Woods batwing mower that is used 4-5 times a year on the pastures just to keep them from going wild, the cattle can't keep them mowed down. The downside of this environment is the endless amount of mud that we deal with in the winter, I don't know about the cattle, which seem to deal with it pretty well, but I can barely walk through it, and it tires me out after an hour or so in mud over my ankles, not to mention that even a 4x4 Gator can sometimes get hung up out here. Forget cowboy boots, the only thing cattle producers wear here are rubber boots, knee high at that. Our cows will eat that clover and grass non-stop until they look like they are about to burst. In fact our cows are almost always bigger in the summer than the winter. If I were out west, I can absolutely guarantee you that I would be running a different operation. I know our cows would not look the same. But that's not the case. Take a look at this cow from 44 Farms. Is she fat? Does she not have worth? She sold, I think for $500k. I would take her in a nano second, and would be thrilled to have her embyros. Her calves would thrive on our operation. Would they thrive in a desert type setting? Probably not. [url=https://cattletoday.com/forum/app.php/gallery/image/151][img]https://cattletoday.com/forum/app.php/gallery/image/151/mini[/img][/url] [/QUOTE]
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