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<blockquote data-quote="Nite Hawk" data-source="post: 1502789" data-attributes="member: 18682"><p>Need some advice.. </p><p>Around here they want the 4-H steers pig fat, and it is difficult to put large amounts of grain in them without burning them</p><p>out.</p><p>Family members have been feeding 4-H steers over the years, but they just get gaining good and then they get the "water-diarrhea" ( grain over load--acidosis ) and tend to go off their grain a bit,and then the gaining slows down.</p><p> A lot of the other people keep shoving the grain to there animals as much as they will eat, anyway, even if their animals have "water diarrhea" -which I disagree with, We have always backed off and let the animals system settle down and then restarted them. People say we are dumb to back off till they settle back down, but I have seen other peoples animals go totally off their grain, some permanently,and even some peoples animals have died --probably from too much grain.</p><p>I talked to a feed specialist and he said putting a bit of baking soda helps, it does help , (but not a cure all- maybe didn't use enough? ) and chopping the grain with the hay. Well we do not have a chopper so we can mix the grain and hay so that don't work. </p><p>We are not feeding anywhere near as much as some people-- figure about 2% of body weight- feeding "altwasser" feed a local mix of barley, corn, beet pulp. We started mixing a small amount of oats in, as a "cool" feed, but he still had a touch of acidosis..</p><p>Would more beet pulp help??</p><p>any thoughts??</p><p>thanks</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nite Hawk, post: 1502789, member: 18682"] Need some advice.. Around here they want the 4-H steers pig fat, and it is difficult to put large amounts of grain in them without burning them out. Family members have been feeding 4-H steers over the years, but they just get gaining good and then they get the "water-diarrhea" ( grain over load--acidosis ) and tend to go off their grain a bit,and then the gaining slows down. A lot of the other people keep shoving the grain to there animals as much as they will eat, anyway, even if their animals have "water diarrhea" -which I disagree with, We have always backed off and let the animals system settle down and then restarted them. People say we are dumb to back off till they settle back down, but I have seen other peoples animals go totally off their grain, some permanently,and even some peoples animals have died --probably from too much grain. I talked to a feed specialist and he said putting a bit of baking soda helps, it does help , (but not a cure all- maybe didn't use enough? ) and chopping the grain with the hay. Well we do not have a chopper so we can mix the grain and hay so that don't work. We are not feeding anywhere near as much as some people-- figure about 2% of body weight- feeding "altwasser" feed a local mix of barley, corn, beet pulp. We started mixing a small amount of oats in, as a "cool" feed, but he still had a touch of acidosis.. Would more beet pulp help?? any thoughts?? thanks [/QUOTE]
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