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<blockquote data-quote="farmerjan" data-source="post: 1630598" data-attributes="member: 25884"><p>HDRider; I ordinarily agree with ask for more, negotiate, then compromise. The thing is the big packers are going to just say NO to the 50% because they have so much contract beef supplies..... So the thing is to get them to come to the table and at least be willing to talk about the 30% and then hopefully in negotiations, ask for even more. It is a MINIMUM 30% that this group is asking for. With 14 day delivery...... so no putting it off into the sometime future.... Remember, JBS owners were some of the ones standing behind Trump at that Ag meeting.... they are snakes in the grass, it is well documented that they are crooked there in Brazil, and they have been "courted" </p><p> here in the US. We are going to have to work with them to some extent since they are so well entrenched.... but if we can get at least that minimum, and some of the strangulation regulations relaxed or changed to make it easier for some smaller plants to operate, then they are the ones that will be competing for the beef on the cash markets, and then even the ones that contract to the big plants will see what the ones on the open cash markets are getting.... if it is $.10 or $1.00 more per pound, the feed lot owners are going to be willing to sell more on the open markets.... competition. </p><p></p><p>There is no earthly reason that the plants were down to paying under $1.00 for fats and the box beef prices were up to over $450.00 ; from $250.00 in less than 2 months with the price of fat cattle dropping from $1.15 to under $1.00..... EXCEPT GREED and manipulation. </p><p>Granted this was on top of the c- virus situation.... but the whole "give more money to workers than they were making", so they could stay home because they were scared of MAYBE catching the virus.... and the unions in the middle.... has made it even easier for these companies to manipulate the prices. </p><p></p><p>I don't fully understand alot of this, but from what I see, and what I can grasp, we are in one he// of a mess if we don't get some sort of "fair trade" deal in place so they cannot totally manipulate this. The 30/14 seems to me to be the best starting place where we have a chance for it to at least get a foothold. Maybe, competition will help it to get better after than.</p><p></p><p>I think that one of our other posters, SBM.... something, I forget his "handle".... has a much better understanding of this and ships quite a bit of "quantity" of feedlot fed beef....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="farmerjan, post: 1630598, member: 25884"] HDRider; I ordinarily agree with ask for more, negotiate, then compromise. The thing is the big packers are going to just say NO to the 50% because they have so much contract beef supplies..... So the thing is to get them to come to the table and at least be willing to talk about the 30% and then hopefully in negotiations, ask for even more. It is a MINIMUM 30% that this group is asking for. With 14 day delivery...... so no putting it off into the sometime future.... Remember, JBS owners were some of the ones standing behind Trump at that Ag meeting.... they are snakes in the grass, it is well documented that they are crooked there in Brazil, and they have been "courted" here in the US. We are going to have to work with them to some extent since they are so well entrenched.... but if we can get at least that minimum, and some of the strangulation regulations relaxed or changed to make it easier for some smaller plants to operate, then they are the ones that will be competing for the beef on the cash markets, and then even the ones that contract to the big plants will see what the ones on the open cash markets are getting.... if it is $.10 or $1.00 more per pound, the feed lot owners are going to be willing to sell more on the open markets.... competition. There is no earthly reason that the plants were down to paying under $1.00 for fats and the box beef prices were up to over $450.00 ; from $250.00 in less than 2 months with the price of fat cattle dropping from $1.15 to under $1.00..... EXCEPT GREED and manipulation. Granted this was on top of the c- virus situation.... but the whole "give more money to workers than they were making", so they could stay home because they were scared of MAYBE catching the virus.... and the unions in the middle.... has made it even easier for these companies to manipulate the prices. I don't fully understand alot of this, but from what I see, and what I can grasp, we are in one he// of a mess if we don't get some sort of "fair trade" deal in place so they cannot totally manipulate this. The 30/14 seems to me to be the best starting place where we have a chance for it to at least get a foothold. Maybe, competition will help it to get better after than. I think that one of our other posters, SBM.... something, I forget his "handle".... has a much better understanding of this and ships quite a bit of "quantity" of feedlot fed beef.... [/QUOTE]
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