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<blockquote data-quote="farmerjan" data-source="post: 1828236" data-attributes="member: 25884"><p>[USER=14161]@gcreekrch[/USER] ; Maybe that is why you make a living from your farming/ranching... and we work another job as well as farm.... but in the same token, wanting to keep better family lines of our own cows, than we can afford to go out and buy to replace them, is why an occasional animal gets carried over into the next group. In the case of those 20 some, it was the bull's fault, not the cows... remember, we have many rented places, and they range from 20-50 acres and only have 1 bull in at most places... like I said, they do not get a slide into the next group a second time around... I might keep 1 or 2 in a year that for whatever reason did not get settled... but more often, they are shorter bred than the rest of the group because we did not take the bulls out on time, or at places that the bulls go in and stay in until the cows come home from pasture.... and it is better for us to move them back to the next group than to sell them and then pay more for some we know nothing about.... we have done that a few times and been further behind because unless it is a farm dispersal sale.... truly from a real farm selling out....not "put together animals".... there are not the better animals available very often here. And honestly, with what we figure it costs to keep a cow for a year... an animal that is costing $2,000 to 3,000 bred is not going to pay for herself in 5 years, if she has 5 steers in a row.... [USER=8993]@kenny thomas[/USER] referred to the "farm dispersal" sales that are often put together groups of cows by traders and such... it is a fact of life here....</p><p></p><p>I do not have the ability or expertise to do a c-section on an animal having trouble calving like you are capable of... that is another vet expense that adds hundreds of dollars to the "cost" of the animal.... so that is another reason we seldom buy a bred heifer now... have lost several from their being bred to "easy calving bulls" and then trying to calve 90+ lb huge calves and can't... Right now there is no way I can justify spending 2500/3000 on a bred older cow either...</p><p>Bless you your abilities, but paying 1800 plus for bred heifers that need groceries just does not work for me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="farmerjan, post: 1828236, member: 25884"] [USER=14161]@gcreekrch[/USER] ; Maybe that is why you make a living from your farming/ranching... and we work another job as well as farm.... but in the same token, wanting to keep better family lines of our own cows, than we can afford to go out and buy to replace them, is why an occasional animal gets carried over into the next group. In the case of those 20 some, it was the bull's fault, not the cows... remember, we have many rented places, and they range from 20-50 acres and only have 1 bull in at most places... like I said, they do not get a slide into the next group a second time around... I might keep 1 or 2 in a year that for whatever reason did not get settled... but more often, they are shorter bred than the rest of the group because we did not take the bulls out on time, or at places that the bulls go in and stay in until the cows come home from pasture.... and it is better for us to move them back to the next group than to sell them and then pay more for some we know nothing about.... we have done that a few times and been further behind because unless it is a farm dispersal sale.... truly from a real farm selling out....not "put together animals".... there are not the better animals available very often here. And honestly, with what we figure it costs to keep a cow for a year... an animal that is costing $2,000 to 3,000 bred is not going to pay for herself in 5 years, if she has 5 steers in a row.... [USER=8993]@kenny thomas[/USER] referred to the "farm dispersal" sales that are often put together groups of cows by traders and such... it is a fact of life here.... I do not have the ability or expertise to do a c-section on an animal having trouble calving like you are capable of... that is another vet expense that adds hundreds of dollars to the "cost" of the animal.... so that is another reason we seldom buy a bred heifer now... have lost several from their being bred to "easy calving bulls" and then trying to calve 90+ lb huge calves and can't... Right now there is no way I can justify spending 2500/3000 on a bred older cow either... Bless you your abilities, but paying 1800 plus for bred heifers that need groceries just does not work for me. [/QUOTE]
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