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They already do censor the movies you can watch in a public forum. The should continue to do so and tighten the restrictions.
 
Of course they should, and while they're at it, might as well tell us what magazines and newspapers we can read too. To hell with the constitution, that was just written by a bunch of old guys who couldn't possibly of known what they were doing. We all need the gov't to protect us and our kids from the bad guys, since surely it can't be the parents responsibility.
If I want to watch a movie that has nudity or curse words in it, and I am willing to pay for it, then I should be able to do so. If you can't figure out how to keep your kids from watching porn or accidently popping on a channel which has R-rated movies, then you need to get your home scene in order before you ask someone else to do it for you.
 
eric":10e1oiuy said:
Of course they should, and while they're at it, might as well tell us what magazines and newspapers we can read too. To hell with the constitution, that was just written by a bunch of old guys who couldn't possibly of known what they were doing. We all need the gov't to protect us and our kids from the bad guys, since surely it can't be the parents responsibility.
If I want to watch a movie that has nudity or curse words in it, and I am willing to pay for it, then I should be able to do so. If you can't figure out how to keep your kids from watching porn or accidently popping on a channel which has R-rated movies, then you need to get your home scene in order before you ask someone else to do it for you.
The constitution never guaranteed your right to watch pornography. Pornography increases violent crime against women , etc. ALL the constitution signers would be against it.
 
By the way it isn't my kids that I want the government to keep from watching the filth you uphold . It is you I want them to stop. I can stop my kids.
 
ollie":30xua8di said:
By the way it isn't my kids that I want the government to keep from watching the filth you uphold . It is you I want them to stop. I can stop my kids.

Right again Ollie!!!
 
eric":2tvzzvwt said:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,149291,00.html

Surely this guy can't be for real? What's next, are they gonna try and censor the movies we go to see at the theaters?

I'm pretty sure the founding fathers didn't expect us to put Howard Stern and the like on public TV. They probably didn't expect a bunch of fags running around screaming equal rights and suing if they didn't get them. It's so prepostorous they couldn't even imagine it. As long as you want to bring the founding fathers into this discussion, how about the "One nation under God statement"? Don't see those rules making it past the Supreme Court much these days. A judge gets the boot because he wants the 10 commandments left alone. Damn liberals get offended by just about anything these days.
 
We don't have cable or satellite, which means no TV (no reception to get the free stations) because of what is on now. You can be watching a 7:00 family show and then a commercial comes on for Victoria's Secret or something. The TV shows are getting worse, far more vulgar, nudity, praising of sinful behaviours and we just didn't want anything to do with it. I think there should be more legislation but I also think that people should be willing to just cancel their cable subscriptions period. Money is what it is all about, enough people cancel and deman decent, moral programs they will start making them.
 
We don't have cable or satellite, which means no TV (no reception to get the free stations) because of what is on now. You can be watching a 7:00 family show and then a commercial comes on for Victoria's Secret or something. The TV shows are getting worse, far more vulgar, nudity, praising of sinful behaviours and we just didn't want anything to do with it. I think there should be more legislation but I also think that people should be willing to just cancel their cable subscriptions period. Money is what it is all about, enough people cancel and deman decent, moral programs they will start making them.
I got this e-mail and thought it was good and sadly true.


A few months before I was born, my Dad met a stranger who was new to our small Schenectady town. From the beginning, Dad was fascinated with this enchanting newcomer and soon invited him to live with our family. The stranger was quickly accepted, and was around to welcome me into the world a few months later. As I grew up, I never questioned his place in my family. In my young mind he had a special niche. My parents were complementary instructors: Mom taught me the word of God, and Dad taught me to obey it. But the stranger? He was our storyteller. He would keep us spellbound for hours on end with adventures, mysteries and comedies. If I wanted to know anything about politics, history, or science, he always had the answers. He knew about the past, understood the present and even seemed able to predict the future! He took my family to the first major league ball game. He made me laugh, and he made me cry The stranger never stopped talking, but Dad didn't seem to mind. Sometimes, Mom would get up quietly while the rest of us were shushing each other to listen to what he had to say, and she would go to her room and read her books. (I wonder, now, if she ever prayed for the stranger to leave.) Dad ruled our household with certain moral convictions, but the stranger never felt obligated to honor them. Profanity, for example, was not allowed in our home Not from us, our friends or any visitors. Our long time visitor however got away with four letter words that burned my ears and made my dad squirm and my mother blush. My Dad was a teetotaler who didn't permit alcohol in the home, not even for cooking. But the stranger encouraged us to try it on a regular basis. He made cigarettes look cool, cigars manly and pipes distinguished. He talked freely (much too freely) about sex His comments were sometimes blatant, sometimes suggestive, and generally embarrassing. I now know that my early concepts about relationships were influenced strongly by the stranger. Time after time, he opposed the values of my parents, yet he was seldom rebuked, and NEVER asked to leave. More than thirty years have passed since the stranger moved in with our family. He has blended right in and is not nearly as fascinating as he was at first. Still, if you were to walk into my parents' den today you would find him sitting over in his corner, waiting for someone to listen to him talk, and watch him draw his pictures.


His name? We just call him TV
 
Victoria":84upvuz8 said:
We don't have cable or satellite, which means no TV (no reception to get the free stations) because of what is on now. You can be watching a 7:00 family show and then a commercial comes on for Victoria's Secret or something. The TV shows are getting worse, far more vulgar, nudity, praising of sinful behaviours and we just didn't want anything to do with it. I think there should be more legislation but I also think that people should be willing to just cancel their cable subscriptions period. Money is what it is all about, enough people cancel and deman decent, moral programs they will start making them.
I got this e-mail and thought it was good and sadly true.


A few months before I was born, my Dad met a stranger who was new to our small Schenectady town. ... His name? We just call him TV

Interesting and creative way to describe the tube. Can't find much to argue with either.

Craig-TX
 
Victoria":9xgqi9s3 said:
You can be watching a 7:00 family show and then a commercial comes on for Victoria's Secret or something.

Very true. I agree with you. Shows continue to get more brazen. There are commericials on tv now that would have qualified for r or x rated when I was a kid.

Victoria":9xgqi9s3 said:
The TV shows are getting worse, far more vulgar, nudity, praising of sinful behaviours and we just didn't want anything to do with it.

Couldn't agree with you more. The shows are somewhat a reflection of our society today.

Victoria":9xgqi9s3 said:
I think there should be more legislation but I also think that people should be willing to just cancel their cable subscriptions period.

More legislation? While I agree with many of your statements, I must disagree with this one. The government cannot legislate morality. Hitler tried, look how that ended up. We have the opportunity to be free, to make choices, to choose between good and evil. No one is forcing us to watch or listen to these shows.

People have the option to cancel their subscriptions, but choose not to.

Victoria":9xgqi9s3 said:
Money is what it is all about, enough people cancel and deman decent, moral programs they will start making them.

If people really want to drive a message home, then don't support the sponsors. Don't support the actors or actress's that are in these movies. Entertainers such as Christia Aguliar or Britney Spears. Don't buy their stuff. As long as people continue to buy trash, someone will produce it.

Someone mentioned porn, porn is a huge industry, because people choose to buy it.

If censorship is allowed, then where does it stop? Who decides what is decent and moral? I'll run my own household. I don't need the government involved with it. I can turn my tv off. I can teach my kids right from wrong, but then they will have make choices. They will have to choose good or evil. They will be accountable for their own actions.

I'm off my soap box now.

In large part I agree with you Victoria. Just against more gov't legislation.
 
Campground Cattle":1j5eqrlf said:
eric":1j5eqrlf said:
To hell with the constitution, that was just written by a bunch of old guys who couldn't possibly of known what they were doing. .


Move, Bye

I can't believe he wrote that.
 
eric":ftn7jwh2 said:
To hell with the constitution, that was just written by a bunch of old guys who couldn't possibly of known what they were doing. .

Idiot
 
Muratic":maaikp6e said:
eric":maaikp6e said:
To hell with the constitution, that was just written by a bunch of old guys who couldn't possibly of known what they were doing. .

Idiot

Sounds like eric and blackpower may be kin.
 
Wasn't raised with a TV, and still don't have one, don't want one. How would I find time to watch it anyway?

Heard Judge Moore on Sean Hannity the other day. That guy is sharp!
 
SF The government cannot legislate morality. Hitler tried said:
I am quite sure you're better educated, smarter, younger etc. etc. I have heard people like you make statements like these . Can you please explain in detail for a stupid old man so I can better understand . What exactly can we legislate? Is murder moral or immoral? Is rape moral or immoral? I realize that both are wrong but I can't for the life of me figure out why if murder and rape aren't immoral. As a matter of fact it seems to me every law that we legislate is to protect the innocent . To me protection of the innocent is moral.

On the choices issue. Do I have the choice to strangle you to death? Would that be immoral or just illegal. Can I have two wives? Would that be immoral or illegal? Can I have a child for a wife? Would that be immoral or illegal?In my way of thinking all we can legislate is morality. Secondly , just because we have the ability to choose between good and evil doesn't mean the government has to give us the right to choose.

Isn't the real issue SF not that we can't legislate morality , but how much immorality you want the freedom to participate in, regardless of the cost to others.
 
ollie":3e5z7ti9 said:
I am quite sure you're better educated, smarter, younger etc. etc. I have heard people like you make statements like these . Can you please explain in detail for a stupid old man so I can better understand . What exactly can we legislate? Is murder moral or immoral? Is rape moral or immoral? I realize that both are wrong but I can't for the life of me figure out why if murder and rape aren't immoral. As a matter of fact it seems to me every law that we legislate is to protect the innocent . To me protection of the innocent is moral.

I'd be happy to explain it to you. Watching TV or listening to the radio, is a choice. You can choose to watch and listen, or you can choose not to. The make guides that you can review prior to turning on the TV or radio and you can determine if this is the kind of show or program you wish to watch or listen to. The article that was quoted had a picture of Howard Stern. If you are not familiar with him, he is a radio "Shock Jock". In my opinion he is a real piece of ****. He doesn't bother me though, because I choose not to listen to him. I also don't buy anything from any of his sponsors that I know about. While I am opposed to programing such as the Howard Stern, I enjoy watching Clint Eastwood and John Wayne movies. If someone legislates that Howard Stern or such programing illegal, then someone may very well legislate that some of the things I enjoy are illegal, simply because they don't like it.

Morals are tough to legislate fairly.

ollie":3e5z7ti9 said:
On the choices issue. Do I have the choice to strangle you to death? Would that be immoral or just illegal.

Ollie, you most certainly have the choice to attempt to strangle me to death. However this is where your choice is taking away my choice. This is where it cross's the line and what makes your attempted murder a crime. You have infringed upon my rights and choices.

Now a tv show or a radio show is not infringing upon your rights or choices. You are choosing to watch it and then you want to blame the programmers, actors, etc..., because you lack the self discipline and moral character to turn it off.

ollie":3e5z7ti9 said:
Isn't the real issue SF not that we can't legislate morality , but how much immorality you want the freedom to participate in, regardless of the cost to others.

I agree with you on a philosphical level about the righ and wrong issues Ollie, but I disagree with you that we should give the government more power to legislate what we watch on tv, listen to on the radio, read in the newspaper, magazines, books, etc... I don't want the government deciding for me what is decent. I'll decide that for my home. With freedom comes individual responsibility for ones actions.
 
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