I've heard some good things about Creole, JMO but 3.77 is real good for a shorty, sounds like you did it right. we ran the points shows in the IJBBA in IA. with this heifer, very long story but, But she was loved by a lot and hated by others LOL. showed a half sister to her the next yr and did very well with her too. the 1 would smell feed and get fat the other was the typical shorty I couldn't throw enough feed to her to get her in show shape, but later in the season she came on , She's a SALUTE the 1st one is a KABOOM you should be fairly close to me if your in SE MN . I appreciate the help you given me