Cowboy Ram, are you saying that the definitions sound nutty to you? Wait, I came back because you said the numbers don't make sense. I wish it were Angus as I could drive everyone off line talking about that. Let me look at that site again and see if I can make heads or tails. I did see that his Birthweight was 86 I think, but I noticed that the sire was the same and they posted that often on many of the bull calves. It made me wonder if that was the highest Birthweight that there were going to list-PERIOD, because none went over that. Like if it weighed 90, just write 86 anyway.